How many must die?

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    How many must die?

    For those who belive we should not invade countries haroboring terioriast since incocent people might die.

    How many people must loose there life until you relize? How many? How many people need to be killed? How many? How many lives need to be taken until something needs to be done? How many?

    How long till you relize? How long? How long should we do nothing? How long? How long need we wait? How long? How long to something gets done? How long?

    When will you relize? When? When will you figure out that your idea's don't work? When? When will it be when you discover that you your ideas are the cause? When? When will you dicover you are wrong? When?
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    Though I am certainly not in favor of sitting and letting othersrolling over us, we must remember before we go rolling over other contries, many of the people in those countries are totally innocent. Think about it, why would a governement take the international critisism if it didn't need the presumable income in bribes that terrorists bring in in order to stick around. Before we go smashing other countries we must remeber those civillian innocents are indeed just as innocent as those of our brethren who we now try to gain vengence for, we can't go in and kill them or we're just as low as the scum that attacked us!
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    >we can't go in and kill them or we're just as low as the scum that attacked us!<

    Sure we can. And I hope we do, because the overwhelming
    majority of Americans see this in the exact opposite light.
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    I think that if these organizations go into the desert and rocky terrain than it will require missiles, perhaps even small nuclear missiles in order to flush them out. On the other hand they could use guerilla tactics and hide in highly populated areas such as the cities of Afghanistan. In that case the US and UN will have to commit ground troops. I think that they will do whatever they have to do.

    What about the responsibility of these innocients as you call them? Do they have no responsibility in life? What about their responsibility to fight for human rights and to fight against the Taliban? Are you going to go over there and watch over them for the next 10 years and make sure they don't organize another terrorist organization?

    But the real question is how long until the terrorists get their hands on a nuclear bomb and set it off in New York or Washington or anywhere else in the USA? My guess is about four or five years from now. There are reports that Bin Lauden has acquired plutonium and other components for nuclear bombs.

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    > Before we go smashing other countries we must remeber those civillian innocents are indeed just as innocent as those of our brethren who we now try to gain vengence for, we can't go in and kill them or we're just as low as the scum that attacked us! <

    Your right, we cannot just go in and kill everyone we see. We must refrain from intentionally killing innocent civilians. We cannot protect all of the innocent civilians in Afghanistan though. To do so, we would have to be so careful that we would accomplish nothing, and would lose a lot of troops in the process.
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    This could be a war, not a tea party. If those nations do not comply than we will have a war. A war is about death. The USA will not go an bomb those countries unless they choose to harbor terrorists. If there is a war than the USA and NATO should use all means possible to win the war, that is if they can win. Like I said, we could wake up tomorrow and half the USA could be destroyed in a nuclear explosion.
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    If we were to go into a pure war, invading other countries, we would not be punishing the ones who are truely responisble. Much of the terrorism is carried out by nationalless peoples. They have homes, more importantly they have culters, but they can get up and move. If we were to invade then we'd be fighting the state armies of the local people who are not nomads, who, for the most part, are not responisble for acts of terrorism agienst the USA.

    I don't want to be mis inturrpeted here as being pro terrorist or anything, I'm 100% for capturing, and if that's not possible killing those responsible, and doing what is nessicary to stop this from happening again. However, to kill innocents makes us as bad as them.

    perhaps even small nuclear missiles in order to flush them out.
    And if we use nukes we're worse than they are. We will have sunken WAY below their level
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    those who support and abide by the terrorists actions are no better than they.
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    Are you going than?

    I personally think that that USA will only be around for about 3-5 more years. I guess it doesn't matter.
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    i think a little longer like 20-25+, but about going i have to see what happens and why we are going to war.

    besides im in the draft already so i don't really have to much of a choice. do i?
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    > I personally think that that USA will only be around for about 3-5 more years. I guess it doesn't matter. <

    And this is based on what?
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    Your country is going to get nuked. Not from the outside but from the inside by terrorists. There is almost no doubt in my mind.
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    whatever.

    If we go Canada will follow you know that right?
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    Not quite because it's very obvious that they will nuke Florida and that is a long ways from Canada.
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    you think once America goes your economy is gonna stay stable? if we go the world economy goes with us.
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