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    Running around carrying nuclear weapons is not something that is terribly easily, especially if you want to have many people around the country carrying them. There is definitely going to be more terrorism, but I'm more worried about biological terrorism than nuclear.

    In any case, this act of terrorism will not cripple the U.S. (in the long term, it may serve to strengthen it), and other acts of terrorism will not cripple it. The most likely next stage of terrorist attacks that I think we are likely to see are smaller scale ones. This one was probably intended to send a message and get our attention, which it did.
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    Any country which tries to nuke the United States will themselfs
    get nuked before the first missles hit the US. Witchcraft means tactical nukes, not fullscale nukes I think. I think (hope) the Taliban will see that Bin Ladden is a criminal and will turn him over. Still it might be to late for them as the US wants to use this opportunity to weed out all terrorists.

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    Yeah, I know what he was talking about. Still, nuclear weapons are not extremely easy to manufacture or to carry around. Biological weapons on the other hand are more easily made, and more easily used, and harder to prevent or stop. Thats why they worry me more.
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    Originally posted by Witch_King
    I think that if these organizations go into the desert and rocky terrain than it will require missiles, perhaps even small nuclear missiles in order to flush them out. On the other hand they could use guerilla tactics and hide in highly populated areas such as the cities of Afghanistan. In that case the US and UN will have to commit ground troops. I think that they will do whatever they have to do.

    What about the responsibility of these innocients as you call them? Do they have no responsibility in life? What about their responsibility to fight for human rights and to fight against the Taliban? Are you going to go over there and watch over them for the next 10 years and make sure they don't organize another terrorist organization?

    But the real question is how long until the terrorists get their hands on a nuclear bomb and set it off in New York or Washington or anywhere else in the USA? My guess is about four or five years from now. There are reports that Bin Lauden has acquired plutonium and other components for nuclear bombs.

    You won't be here five years from now.

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    It might not be too tough to get a weapon of mass destruction into Floriduh, but it would be tough to get it into mainland USA. But you can't rule anything out. I don't think that the world sees the danger yet.
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    > And if we use nukes we're worse than they are. We will have sunken WAY below their level<

    Only if we use them first, and we won't.

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    Originally posted by Witch_King
    It might not be too tough to get a weapon of mass destruction into Floriduh, but it would be tough to get it into mainland USA. But you can't rule anything out. I don't think that the world sees the danger yet.
    The first step is to close our borders. We absolutely must do
    that. I think we'll need one hell of of a lot of patrol boats
    too, to guard our coastlines as good as we possibly can.

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    I heard that the USA sent submarines and air craft carriers to the east coast. Infact I think the east cost is protected right now, but for how long? If the USA lets the middle east get away with this by treating Bin Lauden like a common criminal, as if he is a normal US citizen with rights, or something, than it's just a matter of time before the terrorists can continue.

    I kind of doubt that they have a nuke yet, but they are definately in the process of building a weapon of mass destruction and infact nobody knows what they have. I'd like to know what lightofdawn will say after the country gets nuked. Hopefully he will die in the explosion because he deserves it if he is wrong about the use of force that he suggests.
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    > If the USA lets the middle east get away with this by treating Bin Lauden like a common criminal, as if he is a normal US citizen with rights, or something, than it's just a matter of time before the terrorists can continue. <
    From what the news over here has been saying (including speechs from Bush and Powell), they are not treating him as a common criminal at all, fortunately.

    > I kind of doubt that they have a nuke yet, but they are definately in the process of building a weapon of mass destruction and infact nobody knows what they have. <
    There have been reports that they have chemical or biological weapons (or at least are in the process of developing them) now.
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    > I heard that the USA sent submarines and air craft carriers to the east coast. Infact I think the east cost is protected right now, but for how long? <
    It is my hope that a very high level of security is maintained.
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    Originally posted by Witch_King
    I heard that the USA sent submarines and air craft carriers to the east coast. Infact I think the east cost is protected right now, but for how long? If the USA lets the middle east get away with this by treating Bin Lauden like a common criminal, as if he is a normal US citizen with rights, or something, than it's just a matter of time before the terrorists can continue.

    I kind of doubt that they have a nuke yet, but they are definately in the process of building a weapon of mass destruction and infact nobody knows what they have. I'd like to know what lightofdawn will say after the country gets nuked. Hopefully he will die in the explosion because he deserves it if he is wrong about the use of force that he suggests.
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    orginally posted by kermi3
    Before we go smashing other countries we must remeber those civillian innocents are indeed just as innocent as those of our brethren who we now try to gain vengence for, we can't go in and kill them or we're just as low as the scum that attacked us!
    So the german citizens who did not like what was hapening to the Jewish race but did Nothing were also inocent. NO they were not.

    orginally posted by Witch_King
    What about the responsibility of these innocients as you call them? Do they have no responsibility in life? What about their responsibility to fight for human rights and to fight against the Taliban? Are you going to go over there and watch over them for the next 10 years and make sure they don't organize another terrorist organization?
    I agree execpt for the part we probley will be there for the next 10 years as a peace keeping force.

    >Your right, we cannot just go in and kill everyone we see. We must refrain from intentionally killing innocent civilians. We cannot protect all of the innocent civilians in Afghanistan though. To do so, we would have to be so careful that we would accomplish nothing, and would lose a lot of troops in the process.<

    Also i agree to.

    Orignally posted by Kirmi3
    If we were to go into a pure war, invading other countries, we would not be punishing the ones who are truely responisble. Much of the terrorism is carried out by nationalless peoples. They have homes, more importantly they have culters, but they can get up and move. If we were to invade then we'd be fighting the state armies of the local people who are not nomads, who, for the most part, are not responisble for acts of terrorism agienst the USA.
    But they are guilty, as guilty as any one else. They give the terriost some where to hide.

    >I heard that the USA sent submarines and air craft carriers to the east coast. Infact I think the east cost is protected right now, but for how long? <

    We had submarines along to cost during the cold war, as did the soviates.

    >The key to Osama Bin Laden is his money. Find that. Confiscate it. And we win. Plain and simple. <

    It's probley in a swiss bank. Also he has 2 brothers that live here in the U.S.A.
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    >It's probley in a swiss bank. Also he has 2 brothers that live here in the U.S.A.<

    If Dubya Bush had two brothers living in Kabul, what do you
    imagine would happen to them?

    I find this hard to believe. If I were President I'd find a way
    to arrest them and hold them hostage until Bin Laden gave
    himself up. This is toally insane.

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    It's a lot easier than you think. Granted, Pakistan has a bomb; "a" bomb. They don't have the delivery system, though. While America has cross-continental rockets, Pakistan has the equivelint of a roman candle and some electrical tape to attach it. We could always go for a poor-man's nuke, which is an air-gas bomb, about 1/4 the power of the bomb that hit Hiroshima, and leaves no radiation.

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    >If Dubya Bush had two brothers living in Kabul, what do you
    imagine would happen to them? <

    speaking of perspective... i can't imagine [because i'm a USer born and raised... but i'm asian and try to hold on...] but my english teacher was mentioning in class one of the past days about how their culture is totally different from ours, that they are raised with a completely different knowledge of Americans then we live to know... not that it's incorrect or what not, but not that our visions are incorrect either. thousands of miles is quite a way, and i've found that no matter how worldly you become, perspective always stands away from you.

    so... who _is_ on first?
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