Goofy .......... first lady has no etiquette

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    They have an emperor, though by law he is emperor by the will of the people rather than by sovereign right.
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    In countries without royalty or very similar concept, there is usually a president, who is more or less powerful, and choosen by election, or there is a dictator not choosen by the people at all. The cost of a president is pretty much level with a royal family - it may even be more if you count elections and such. And dictator is not what I want, and I doubt it saves any money on average...

    It's not that it MUST be this way, but sometimes traditions and keeping things stable will help things too.

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    The queen ostensibly has no real political power in GB anymore. She does however have significant influence with people in the commonwealth and is well respected around the world. So to say she has no power isn't entirely accurate either. The queen is the corporeal manifestation of the commonwealth. An offence against the queen is more than an offence against her personage, it is an offence against the entire commonwealth. Just as an offence against the president is more than an offence on a single individual.
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    Akkernight,
    >> If my parents gave me something, I'd throw it right out the window
    Then you must be unrealistically content (or very young). I'm happy for you.
    But inheriting something is by no means 'pathetic' - no matter how big it is. You say that you must earn power and possessions, but obviously, we inheritance proving you wrong. Please explain as to why you disagree.

    I agree that most 'royal families' do weigh down countries. But I also view celebrity presidents as 'royal families'.
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    Where I live, we're under the Danish crown or whatever, but I must say, most of us hate the Queen xP
    Well so do most of the danes, i can tell you that.
    I do however not agree with Yarins comment about 'royal families weighing countries down', in what way would a royal family weigh a country down? Economically? Hardly!
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    >> I do however not agree with Yarins comment about 'royal families weighing countries down', in what way would a royal family weigh a country down? Economically? Hardly!
    No, I wasn't meaning economically. In fact, I recognize that the wealthy are a vital component to an economy. I was referring to the fact that 'modern' royalty is kind of unnecessary. What does royalty really benefit anymore?
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    Replace every occurrence of "Americans" with "Nazis" and read it again.
    Comparing Americans holding their hands over their heart during a national anthem to Nazis is just downright disrespectful. Get a clue.

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    I am young, and the reasons I'd throw it out is out of topic, and really a dreary(testing my english here, is this right? For a negative thing) affair xP
    Still, I do not heritage(?) is good for you, and when it involves other people it shouldn't exist! Like, if you inherit a car, no one really cares, except for envy... If you inherit a city, people do care... Still, the queen hasn't inherited a city, that's not what I'm saying... Infact I have no idea what control the Royal Family has, but I do no they are unneeded...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yarin View Post
    >> I do however not agree with Yarins comment about 'royal families weighing countries down', in what way would a royal family weigh a country down? Economically? Hardly!
    No, I wasn't meaning economically. In fact, I recognize that the wealthy are a vital component to an economy. I was referring to the fact that 'modern' royalty is kind of unnecessary. What does royalty really benefit anymore?
    Well, who else would cut the ribbons and smash the champagne bottles?....

    No really, not being necessary surely doesn't equal weighing your country down?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
    Comparing Americans holding their hands over their heart during a national anthem to Nazis is just downright disrespectful. Get a clue.
    It's not Americans holding their hands over their heart during a national anthem that is disturbing me. I consider this kind of behavior to be merely ridiculous. What I didn't like about your post was the following part:

    Thousands of men died and gave their own blood for the flag so the very least you could do is honor their sacrifice by respecting what it stands for. However if a foreign person just simply does not know better I am far more forgiving of that than the thousands of Americans at sporting events that could care less about our own flag and outright disrespect it.
    First of all, "what it stands for" might as well be seen as wars of aggression to support the national military complex (an economic necessity for the US), to fight communism (which is even more cruel) or to ensure the supply of cheap oil (which is plain greedy). For me, it's hard to find anything that deserves respect here. Second, I'm tired of this constant babble about "the flag". Maybe the US flag bears a meaning to US citizens, but it's completely out of my comprehension how you can assume that everyone else in the world must share these emotions towards an arbitrary piece of cloth. There's no need to be forgiving either: maybe foreigners just don't give a ........, and the same might even apply to some of your fellow countrymen. Who cares?

    My intention was not to compare the US propaganda with the Nazi propaganda (although I wouldn't hesitate to do so. And before you object: tell me the difference). I just wanted to show you that by replacing the subject of your discourse, you'll end up with a message that you surely don't want to spread. You ask from others what you're not willing to give.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snafuist View Post
    It's not Americans holding their hands over their heart during a national anthem that is disturbing me. I consider this kind of behavior to be merely ridiculous. What I didn't like about your post was the following part:
    Yes, loyalty, tradition, these are obviously rediculous concepts.

    First of all, "what it stands for" might as well be seen as wars of aggression to support the national military complex (an economic necessity for the US), to fight communism (which is even more cruel) or to ensure the supply of cheap oil (which is plain greedy). For me, it's hard to find anything that deserves respect here. Second, I'm tired of this constant babble about "the flag". Maybe the US flag bears a meaning to US citizens, but it's completely out of my comprehension how you can assume that everyone else in the world must share these emotions towards an arbitrary piece of cloth. There's no need to be forgiving either: maybe foreigners just don't give a ........, and the same might even apply to some of your fellow countrymen. Who cares?

    My intention was not to compare the US propaganda with the Nazi propaganda (although I wouldn't hesitate to do so. And before you object: tell me the difference). I just wanted to show you that by replacing the subject of your discourse, you'll end up with a message that you surely don't want to spread. You ask from others what you're not willing to give.

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    Wow, ths is just an incredibly naive and simplistic view. Ensuring the supply of oil is pure greed eh? Well then ensuring the supply of food is just greed too, and if you say that they are different they are not. Petroleum is a critical component in teh production of artificial fertilizers, which are used to increase crop production. Since the US is a net exporter fo food, perhaps you woudl like to convince the countries that we sell our excess food to that they should go hungry so that saudi kings can get $500 a barrel.
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    Wow, ths is just an incredibly naive and simplistic view. Ensuring the supply of oil is pure greed eh? Well then ensuring the supply of food is just greed too, and if you say that they are different they are not. Petroleum is a critical component in teh production of artificial fertilizers, which are used to increase crop production. Since the US is a net exporter fo food, perhaps you woudl like to convince the countries that we sell our excess food to that they should go hungry so that saudi kings can get $500 a barrel.
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    I don't think the anthem is being used as well or as respected as it could be. I blame playing it at every single sporting event, watering down the meaning. There is a difference between that overdone rendition and this one on 9/12.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteflags View Post
    I don't think the anthem is being used as well or as respected as it could be. I blame playing it at every single sporting event, watering down the meaning. There is a difference between that overdone rendition and this one on 9/12.
    I disagree, I think the probem is that most people just don't take pride in their nationality anymore.
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    To me, my nationality isn't a sense of pride. I was the result of a universal dice game and pretty much exist by chance. I didn't win a pre-natal rice to be born into my country of choice.
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