Goofy .......... first lady has no etiquette

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    First. I'm not American, so it cannot be Amercian arrogance xP I just want to say this, 'cause I don't want to have anything to do with giving Americans a worse reputation...
    Second. Getting much power just 'cause you were born is unfair, retarded and uncontrollable! Where I live, we're under the Danish crown or whatever, but I must say, most of us hate the Queen xP
    Now just because I was born I'm allowed to say, all your bases are belong to me! ... ?
    You've gotta earn your rights and power and all that, not just get it! Pathetic -.-
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    it cannot be Amercian arrogance
    True - and furthermore, I'd say it's more ignorance, if anything. Established protocols are there, yes, but isn't it arrogant to think you're so holy you can't be greeted in the way people feel comfortable unless you deem them 'worthy'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abachler View Post
    Diplomatic immunity only covers misdemeanors, not felonies. And I think it would be difficult to argue it beig agaisnt protocol, when a violation fo protocol is what instigated the charges.
    According to Legal Aspects of Diplomatic Immunity and Privileges , which would be representative of the majority of countries as immunity is handled by treaty and convention, a Diplomatic Agent (which the POTUS would be) may not be arrested. Since the wife of POTUS would be a "Recognized Family Member" she has the same protection as the POTUS.

    And protocol gaffes are generally ignored between long time allies. From the brief video I saw I didn't see anything to indicate that the queen was offended by it.

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    Not possible to arrest the president -.- the ....... has a freaking license to kill! D:
    Probably thinking he's James Bond or something, but ok, presidents aren't as bad, since they actually have to do some work to get to their seat! So I ain't gonna say anything against them xP
    But the Royal Family needs to be kicked out their royal castles and get a job the regular way!
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    wait, I actually thought twice... Maybe the Royal Family was born into demise(?), since there's no way I'd survive living with them D: having all that publicity, power and not being able to live like a free human being... I think they should just leave the medieval and come to the modern world -.-
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    >> You've gotta earn your rights and power and all that, not just get it!
    Says who?

    You're going to inherit your parent's property. The queen simply inherited ownership of her property (country and it's subjects) from her distant parents.

    Besides, modern royalty is far different from ancient royalty.
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    > From the brief video I saw I didn't see anything to indicate that the queen was offended by it.
    Maybe she was lonely, after not letting anyone touch her in so many years.

    But seriously, how stupid can you get -- don't touch the Queen. End of story. It's almost like she did it on purpose... the commonwealth vs America would not be pretty, for either side.
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    How do any of you know it was not some planned staged event to boost the popularity of the current U.S. administration?

    Anyone in higher government knows how to act around the queen or around other foreign diplomats. However the queen isn't really a diplomat as much as a symbol but everyone in government knows how they should treat foreign dignitaries.

    I'm not so sure that it either was planned, not a big deal until the U.S media got a hold of it, or a definite breach of protocol that offended the queen.

    Either way the U.S and the U.K. have much more bigger fish to fry than a mere breach of protocol.

    I see many Americans breach their own protocol when they do not hold their hand over their heart during the national anthem and/or act as if it isn't playing and go about their business. Since most of my family is military that is a definite no-no. Thousands of men died and gave their own blood for the flag so the very least you could do is honor their sacrifice by respecting what it stands for. However if a foreign person just simply does not know better I am far more forgiving of that than the thousands of Americans at sporting events that could care less about our own flag and outright disrespect it.

    So for the first lady to breach protocol it comes down to whether she knew the right thing to do (which she does), made a mistake (most likely), or just didn't care (highly improbable).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
    How do any of you know it was not some planned staged event

    I'm not so sure that it [...] was planned
    what?
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    Getting much power just 'cause you were born is unfair
    Yes, it IS unfair. And life IS unfair.

    Are you not born with more influence than those in poor third world countries?

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    I'm completely baffled to see you guys talking three pages long about an irrelevant incident between the wife of some president and an old lady having more titles than political power. Write love letters to strangers instead. I'm sure the queen will get over it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
    I see many Americans breach their own protocol when they do not hold their hand over their heart during the national anthem and/or act as if it isn't playing and go about their business. Since most of my family is military that is a definite no-no. Thousands of men died and gave their own blood for the flag so the very least you could do is honor their sacrifice by respecting what it stands for. However if a foreign person just simply does not know better I am far more forgiving of that than the thousands of Americans at sporting events that could care less about our own flag and outright disrespect it.
    Replace every occurrence of "Americans" with "Nazis" and read it again.

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    I agree with Bubba on the anthem thing, in fact, being a veteren myself I play Reveille each morning, which does tend to annoy my neighbors.
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    Yarin, also getting huge stuff from your parents is pathetic! -.-
    If my parents gave me something, I'd throw it right out the window... Unless it was candy of some kind
    Also, it might not be LIKE the ancient royal family, still it's from the ancient and EXTREMELY unneeded in the modern world... Look at England! They aren't helping the world in any way! Well maybe some ways, but if you look at America, they don't have these royal families like we were in the medieval, and they give us Hollywood action, technology stuff, NVIDIA :O! and so on, Japan doesn't eather have this crap, they give us cheap stuff, let the not so rich be able to get stuff too, and give ATI which has good Anti-Aliasing and is pretty cheap for it's performance...
    These royal families are slowing the world down! D:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akkernight
    Japan doesn't eather have this crap
    They have an emperor, though by law he is emperor by the will of the people rather than by sovereign right.
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