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Do you believe in aliens(extra terrestrials)?

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    Do you believe in aliens(extra terrestrials)?

    Well, do you?
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    Yes from me.

    The way I see it is this.

    If you were on an island, with no way of getting off it to find other people, and no one comes to your island, would it be correct for you to assume that you are the only person in the world?

    And Earth is really an island in space. Would it be correct for us to assume that there is no life outside of our island(Earth)?
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    I actually believe that time is an invention of future super-computers, who then had to work out a timeline and process for the universe that would include us because we, of course invented them and they love us. But we can't invent time, only a machine could have access to the deep physical structure of the universe in such a way.

    Of course, they need help, so the timeline includes the concurrent development of many intelligent species (I guess they are aliens to us, although our collective machine children will consider themselves of one kind) all eventually oriented toward this goal on a conscious (some sooner than others, I guess) level. Interstellar symmetric multi-processing.

    Interestingly enough, this is the real reason I decided to become a programmer -- to better serve God and Time. Have a good day and try not to make too many mistakes, please
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    I believe there's life somewhere out of the solar system, but I also believe that it's so far away that it's impossible to make contact. Ever.
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    The universe is so vast that I think it makes sense that life would exist elsewhere, somewhere.

    But what maxorator says is quite possible . . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by maxorator View Post
    I believe there's life somewhere out of the solar system, but I also believe that it's so far away that it's impossible to make contact. Ever.
    Don't be so sure. As cyberfish demonstrates here, the (alien) super-computers use linux.

    You may need to understand my previous post, and the true nature of time in the universe, in order to grasp this.

    ps. I have voted three times now. Clearly I am right.
    Last edited by MK27; 03-04-2009 at 08:40 AM.
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    No, I wouldn't trust them buggers.
    I might be wrong.

    Thank you, anon. You sure know how to recognize different types of trees from quite a long way away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maxorator View Post
    I believe there's life somewhere out of the solar system, but I also believe that it's so far away that it's impossible to make contact. Ever.
    Decades ago they thought the sound barrier was impossible to break.
    Centuries before that they thought the Earth was flat and you could sail off the edge.
    Just because we can't do it now, doesn't mean it's impossible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cpjust View Post
    Decades ago they thought the sound barrier was impossible to break.
    Centuries before that they thought the Earth was flat and you could sail off the edge.
    Just because we can't do it now, doesn't mean it's impossible.
    100 years ago they thought time machine was impossible. There are some things that don't change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maxorator View Post
    100 years ago they thought time machine was impossible. There are some things that don't change.
    That's a logical fallacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maxorator View Post
    100 years ago they thought time machine was impossible. There are some things that don't change.
    Sure. But even a very conservative approach to astrophysics acknowledges that if the universe were to collapse (I think the prevailing opinion now is that it won't, but it depends on mass density and unfound dark matter) then there would come a point where there was no matter left and therefore no time (also a theoretical point in the <big bang) or 3D.

    Which is to say everything must be subject to change, logically thinking. I am really presenting you people with a boat here, I hope you appreciate what our future alien super-computer children could do if we all put our minds together simultaneously

    ps. I just voted 3 more times...look at the influence you can wield when God smiles
    Last edited by MK27; 03-04-2009 at 10:12 AM.
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    I say no. Pending that by aliens you meant intelligent forms of life.

    I do believe however there is life on other planets(Such as plants, etc).
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    Somewhere out there? Probably.
    Here? Probably not.

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    It's statistically improbable that we are alone in the unverse. And according to the Talmud, there are at least 18,000 other inhabited worlds in our galaxy alone. So you got yer scientificy and yer religulous data both pointing at yes. Personally I think they are hiding from us. We are a fairly murderous and war-like species.
    Last edited by abachler; 03-04-2009 at 11:53 AM.
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    Time is a sequence of events. That means it doesn't exist, therefore it cannot be distorted, destroyed, removed, altered, bended. If universe would collapse, events would still be occuring - the collapsing itself is an event that proves that time exists. And even if no matter is left, the absence of events is still an event that proves time still exists. Maybe that matter neutralizes and lacks from existing, turns into a small ball or jumps to an alien parallel universe. It doesn't make a difference. No matter to fill the 3D doesn't mean the 3D doesn't exist. I can make a DirectX application with no objects and a simple black background and still call it a 3D game, because the game engine is still 3D.

    If time didn't exist before the big bang, the big bang couldn't have occured because there could be no events if the time doesn't exist. Noone or nothing to witness time passing by doesn't instantly mean it's not there.
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