Economy crises, Job loss etc etc

This is a discussion on Economy crises, Job loss etc etc within the A Brief History of Cprogramming.com forums, part of the Community Boards category; Originally Posted by abachler God didn't give me a 172 IQ so I could program ........ Very impressive....

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    Quote Originally Posted by abachler View Post
    God didn't give me a 172 IQ so I could program ........
    Very impressive.
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    172 o.o! You eather listen too well, read too much or are Einstein D:
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    God didn't give me a 172 IQ so I could program ........ing database's and web pages
    He also hasn't given you a job for the past five months. I wouldn't want to hire you because you sound like an arrogant ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abachler View Post
    God didn't give me a 172 IQ so I could program ........ing database's and web pages.
    You don't actually say that when you go for job interviews do you?
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    If I'm not mistaken, your IQ only really (accurately) measures how well you learn, doesn't it? Or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by psychopath View Post
    If I'm not mistaken, your IQ only really (accurately) measures how well you learn, doesn't it? Or something.
    To side track this further: IQ tests ONLY test how good you are at solving IQ tests - nothing else. Now, some are better than others - and the free ones on the web usually aren't!

    Many so called IQ tests are not at all IQ tests, but rather skills/knowledge tests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psychopath View Post
    If I'm not mistaken, your IQ only really (accurately) measures how well you learn, doesn't it? Or something.
    The real ones test many different cognitive domains, learning rate, problem solving ability, memory are just a few.

    Quote Originally Posted by matsp View Post
    To side track this further: IQ tests ONLY test how good you are at solving IQ tests - nothing else. Now, some are better than others - and the free ones on the web usually aren't!

    Many so called IQ tests are not at all IQ tests, but rather skills/knowledge tests.

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    Mats, i believe you are referring to the 'free online ones' when you say they measure the ability to take IQ tests and nothign more. I wasn't rated by those, but rather the professional ones that take several hours in an actual psychiatrists office. You know, ones like WAIS, Stanford-Binet, Catel, etc.

    And to sidetrack this even further, in my experience the people who most fervently believe that IQ doesnt matter are the ones with little of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by BobMcGee123 View Post
    He also hasn't given you a job for the past five months. I wouldn't want to hire you because you sound like an arrogant ass.
    </ego snipe>
    I am an arrogant ass, what of it? It's hard not being arrogant when you are constantly bombarded by the deafening sound of how awesome it is to be me
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    Quote Originally Posted by abachler View Post
    Mats, i believe you are referring to the 'free online ones' when you say they measure the ability to take IQ tests and nothign more. I wasn't rated by those, but rather the professional ones that take several hours in an actual psychiatrists office. You know, ones like WAIS, Stanford-Binet, Catel, etc.
    Whilst the comprehensive tests you mention certainly are better than the free ones on the internet, they still measure your ability to perform those tests - which may or may not reflect well on your ability to do other things. Yes, if you get a high score, you are measurably intelligent.

    And no, I suppose I don't "need" an intelligence test - my score on the "skills" test they had at military service in Sweden, I did "middle of the range" on the average, but I had a spread from 3-9 on a scale of 1-9(1="poor", 9="best") for the different tests. I also scored 9 on the fitness test, which I doubt I'd get even close to now, 20+ years later.

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    And I'm starting to see why someone is jobless

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    Quote Originally Posted by matsp View Post
    Whilst the comprehensive tests you mention certainly are better than the free ones on the internet, they still measure your ability to perform those tests - which may or may not reflect well on your ability to do other things. Yes, if you get a high score, you are measurably intelligent.

    And no, I suppose I don't "need" an intelligence test - my score on the "skills" test they had at military service in Sweden, I did "middle of the range" on the average, but I had a spread from 3-9 on a scale of 1-9(1="poor", 9="best") for the different tests. I also scored 9 on the fitness test, which I doubt I'd get even close to now, 20+ years later.

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    Then by that token, a college degree doesnt measure knowledge, only your ability to get a college degree, so we should stop using them as a qualification.

    I've heard that arguement many times, it sounds like a fine notion to those trying to justify discriminating against highly intelligent people, but the facts show that IQ does directly correlate to job performance, and while IQ generally improves the success at attaining a degree, attaining a degree does not improve your IQ.
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    And to sidetrack this even further, in my experience the people who most fervently believe that IQ doesnt matter are the ones with little of it.
    Could you please define me what intelligence is ?

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    And before you try discriminating me, yes I did pass a few IQ tests and got satisfying results.

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    The difference is that when I have an accounting test in which I perform well it means that my knowledge of accounting is above the level of my exam. When you succeed well in an IQ test, it means that your knowledge of.. wait there is no knowledge tested. It may test skills in certain fields but saying it tests intelligence is highly subjective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abachler View Post
    but the facts show that IQ does directly correlate to job performance
    Then why are you jobless?

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    I've heard that arguement many times, it sounds like a fine notion to those trying to justify discriminating against highly intelligent people, but the facts show that IQ does directly correlate to job performance, and while IQ generally improves the success at attaining a degree, attaining a degree does not improve your IQ.
    Unless you're such an arrogant ass you can't work with other people...but I guess it's just a cruel society in which there's so many stupid people out there employed in the same field as you, but you've been unemployed for the past 5 months...

    My guess is you're mostly full of ...........you sound the way I did when I was 16 man.
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    This (Validity of IQ) has been discussed before on other forums
    http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=88565.

    Whilst I agree that a college degree/ higher IQ is important for employment, EQ is important for retaining it, I think.
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    I've found that the higher a person's IQ gets the lower their social skills get, which would explain some of my faux pas.
    I'm wondering if there's a connection between IQ and Asperger Syndrome?
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