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    Red face Silly question :D

    Sorry, I have to ask this English thing...

    What is the different between motion and movement?

    Both of them has the same meaning in my dictionary...

    Why MouseMotionListener instead of MouseMovementListener??

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    English is not my native language, but I think MouseMotionListener sounds a bit less clumsy.
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    I believe movement is when something moves from one place to another. However, motion is a series of movements.
    Usually, we might say the mouse moves, but what you are doing is motion, not movement.
    That is how I see it, anyway.
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    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
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    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

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    Wikipedia said:

    "Motion (physics), any physical movement or change in position or place"

    So motion is part of movement?

    But, Wikipedia said:

    A movement is a motion, a change in position. Movement can also refer to: ...

    So movement is part of motion, huh?

    Or movement is motion and motion is movement?

    What the...

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    if(movement == motion) {
      "Move! Move! She is gonna blow!" == "Motion! Motion! She is gonna blow!" ? LOL : ??
    }
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    I interpret it as:
    Motion is part of a movement (physical or otherwise). If there a movement, there must be motion, or the movement cannot be.
    Quote Originally Posted by Adak View Post
    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
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    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

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    I don't know the semantic difference, but it's part of the API, use MouseMotionListener.
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    I don't know the semantic difference, but it's part of the API, use MouseMotionListener.
    Yeah. I currently playing around with Java's Swing and Java2D, because I have to create a game for my exam.

    And I was surprised with their way to manipulating Graphics, quite fun and simple, instead of .NET's way, and its performance still have no harm (except its first startup time).
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    How about, they're synonyms, so the API designers chose the shorter word?
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    I'd've called it MouseMotionMonitor, but that's just cause I like using literary techniques in my programming as often as possible.

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    I would have called it MouseMovementMonitor, because we talk about mouse movement, usually, not mouse motion.
    Quote Originally Posted by Adak View Post
    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
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    Now you've got to define the difference, though.
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    I've seldom seen somebody so stymied by synonyms.
    Code:
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    //{
    	if (a) do { f( b); } while(1);
    	else   do { f(!b); } while(1);
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    Quote Originally Posted by brewbuck View Post
    I've seldom seen somebody so stymied by synonyms.
    Nice way to put it. In your native language do you do the same thing? I can't imagine yours has any less synonyms than English. English spelling is the most upsetting to me.
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    lruc, I wouldn't take it as literally as you did. I believe brewbuck was just trying to show off his mad alliteration skills to all of us. That said, from other languages that I've experienced, I'd say English falls pretty low on the synonym count. In some European languages that a know a bit of, it seems as though there are 5-10 ways to say any single word. This could just appear this way due to my perspective though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlyMaelstrom View Post
    lruc, I wouldn't take it as literally as you did. I believe brewbuck was just trying to show off his mad alliteration skills to all of us. That said, from other languages that I've experienced, I'd say English falls pretty low on the synonym count. In some European languages that a know a bit of, it seems as though there are 5-10 ways to say any single word. This could just appear this way due to my perspective though.
    I think you took my post more literally than I had intended. I didn't mean it to be harsh. In fact I was actually asking how much worse his language was than English. I hate how it's hard to tell opinion with plain text!
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