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    In my opinion the best games are usually multi-platform, and this includes games that are popular enough to get ported. Fanboyism is annoying, and no one wants to hear you defend your personal best console irrationally from real engineering issues. Gamers are in it for the fun of it.

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    Yeah, I always play gamers only for the fun, just like to debate, it's just me :/
    Xbox Live is the best online service thingy!... Just had to say that :P
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    'cause piracy is killing the computer games :/
    My first memories in life are mostly sitting with my brothers while they played computer games (amazing babysitting tool). Looking back, I'm certain they were all pirated. Even with the internet, I don't think piracy is suddenly becoming unbearable for games manufacturer's - it's always been there, always will be. It's wrong, and it's a problem, I agree - but I'd say it's a long way from "killing" anything. How much music gets pirated? How many musicians are still loaded? Granted, they're not as loaded as they otherwise would be, but nobody's "killing" the music industry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elysia View Post
    Well, that is subjective, so I won't comment on that.


    Right. Explain that to everyone out there who have had one broken down on them.


    Perhaps you should enlighten yourself by doing some research before you try to declare a well-known fact false?
    Even Microsoft has admitted the fault. Indeed, a former employee (I believe) also admitted and gave an inside story on how 360s broke due to poor manufacturing.

    Even if YOURS has not broken down does not mean OTHERS have not. The web is full of horror stories, and yet you hear none about Wii or PS3, which seems to suggest that it is tied to 360 and very unreliable hardware and horrible customer support.
    I think your being a little harsh on the 360. I own one and would definitely agree that they do break down. A lot. This is my third replacement. I actually do wish that I had got a ps3, but that's just because I'm pro OpenGL and anti DirectX. But overall, it's a decent system. It has its flaws just like Windows, but it does have a lot of nice features, especially live. My gamer tag is curl12 if you want to add me.

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    I am very harsh against its engineering, but not the system itself. I don't own one, though.
    I am anti-PS3 because of Sony, though.
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    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
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    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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    I am very harsh against its engineering, but not the system itself.
    By 'engineering' do you mean the way it was designed or built? I think that term can refer to either.

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    it doesn't have to make sense... its all about being the most opinionated for some people
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    How Microsoft build the system. The manufacturing part.
    Although, I have a few issues with the way Microsoft is trying to force proprietary accessories on you, too.
    Quote Originally Posted by Adak View Post
    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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    I havn't looked at it's inside, but I like the outside :P And it's the most used console by Game Developers! So proud that I have one too ^^ Anyways, almost every time you see some game testing, they test with the 360
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    Dude. Back down.
    We get it, that you love the 360. You do not have to needlessly repeat it. It will everyone annoyed with you and nothing more.
    Quote Originally Posted by Adak View Post
    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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    Sorry for trying... Well, you can program games on the 360, hah! :P Havn't tried it myself, but I've seen it on xbox Live
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elysia View Post
    Dude. Back down.
    Woah, that's trippy. I think I'm getting disoriented.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elysia View Post
    Dude. Back down.
    We get it, that you love the 360. You do not have to needlessly repeat it. It will everyone annoyed with you and nothing more.
    Replace the word 360 with C++ and I could say an equivalent statement to you. Hypocrite!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lruc View Post
    Replace the word 360 with C++ and I could say an equivalent statement to you. Hypocrite!
    Err... are you sure you're in the right place? This IS a C/C++ forum.
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    He's in the right place - he's referring to a thread a couple of weeks back.

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