Oh this one is GOOD!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FillYouBrain
    and the fruity, artsy (mac) side
    We're not fruity.
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    yeah, I guess that was harsh.
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    but I'm sure you'd admit that mac people have been rather harsh to MS also. The "I'm a mac" ad campaign that's been going is pretty disingenuous and childish.
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    Since I got my new PC with Vista, I've been getting all kinds of problems, like Vista just not starting, but people always say it's my PC that's the problem, so Vista works a 100%, for all that I know
    Xbox 360 is a masterpiece! Ok, Microsoft made a mistake with the graphics card, but they fixed it Now it's only pure enjoyment ^^
    And they havn't made one bad game, so Microsoft should be the best...? But I've never dealt with their support, so I havn't seen their so called bad site :P
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    yeah, I never called for support for any system. So for those of us who generally don't need support, it isn't a part of the equation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FillYourBrain
    but I'm sure you'd admit that mac people have been rather harsh to MS also. The "I'm a mac" ad campaign that's been going is pretty disingenuous and childish.
    I agree, but I still love the ads anyway .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akkernight View Post
    Xbox 360 is a masterpiece! Ok, Microsoft made a mistake with the graphics card, but they fixed it Now it's only pure enjoyment ^^
    Not saying the machine itself is bad, but the engineering quality is just a joke. It is not worth the money you are paying for it.
    As for Windows, I do like it. Far better than Linux. It is more my style, so I do not blame Microsoft for Windows (although they have made some pretty poor things, like ME and recently Vista).
    But I do hate them for some other things. They always want to be number one is everything and the scary thing is that with their money, it is possible.
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    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
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    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

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    the 360 works, and is cheap! That's all I need :P And it's way better than PS3, so what else is there to get? :P
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    It works until it breaks.
    I am not saying I like the PS3. It is way too expensive, but if you would compare the 360 to either Wii or PS3, it is like a fat miserable piece of crap in terms of reliability and that is inexcusable. Microsoft even hurt themselves in the long run due to the miserable quality. How are they going to make profit on the 360 now?
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    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
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    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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    The 360 is better than both PS3 and Wii, and never ever breaks :P It's some fantasy idea made by other console fanboys, 'cause I know pretty many who have a 360, none which has ever had one problem, except the graphics card, but I dunno what kind of crap may get transfered over to where you live :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akkernight View Post
    The 360 is better than both PS3 and Wii
    Well, that is subjective, so I won't comment on that.

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    ...and never ever breaks :P
    Right. Explain that to everyone out there who have had one broken down on them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Akkernight View Post
    It's some fantasy idea made by other console fanboys, 'cause I know pretty many who have a 360, none which has ever had one problem, except the graphics card, but I dunno what kind of crap may get transfered over to where you live :P
    Perhaps you should enlighten yourself by doing some research before you try to declare a well-known fact false?
    Even Microsoft has admitted the fault. Indeed, a former employee (I believe) also admitted and gave an inside story on how 360s broke due to poor manufacturing.

    Even if YOURS has not broken down does not mean OTHERS have not. The web is full of horror stories, and yet you hear none about Wii or PS3, which seems to suggest that it is tied to 360 and very unreliable hardware and horrible customer support.
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    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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    Just got mine :P But I know alot of others who have it, and never have had a problem, especially the so well known Red Ring of Death(?) all that I've seen or hear about, is the beautiful green ring, with the fancy white color console ^^
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    I know one who has a 360, and who knows at least someone else who has one, and they have not gotten a RROD (yet), but that does not change the facts.
    Remember: even if it is a 1% chance, there is someone (or someones) who must be that 1%. You may not hear about it, in other words, but some poor fellow out there will be that 1%, otherwise it would not be 1%.
    And the failure rate of the 360 was calculated to something along the lines of 30%.
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    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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    Well, Microsoft does give good 360 support :P And it's the best console out there :P And I'm a game enthusiast, or whatever it's called, so I need a console, 'cause piracy is killing the computer games :/ and both my computers have been a fail, the first one had a wrong type of ram in it or something, and exploded just recently, and the new one has been to repairs about 5-6 times >.<
    I only have one game for the console tho, GTA IV, not very proud of that :/ Endwar has been sent, so I guess I'm on my way to be able to really call myself a gamer...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akkernight View Post
    Well, Microsoft does give good 360 support :P
    Evidence suggests the contrary. It's horrible, frankly.

    And it's the best console out there :P
    Yes, yes, you said that already. And not everyone may agree with you. Keep that in mind.

    And I'm a game enthusiast, or whatever it's called, so I need a console
    I fail to see how that has anything to do with things...

    'cause piracy is killing the computer games :/
    So they say. I cannot say if that is true or not.

    and both my computers have been a fail, the first one had a wrong type of ram in it or something, and exploded just recently, and the new one has been to repairs about 5-6 times >.<
    Well, wow. I have never had a computer die on me.
    Well, sure, there have been times where I have been unable to use my computer due to the operating system, but other than that, no...

    I only have one game for the console tho, GTA IV, not very proud of that :/ Endwar has been sent, so I guess I'm on my way to be able to really call myself a gamer...?
    I would call anyone who plays game a gamer, though. No matter how many hours they put into it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Adak View Post
    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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