Man, I really hate Microsoft...

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    Originally posted by Govtcheez
    Because buying into the evil Sony empire is no different than buying into MS
    I think it's funny when people think companies are evil when they become succesful So let me ask, did you think Sony was evil before the Playstation?

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    GT3, Madden 2002, THPS3, ICO, FFX, SSX: Tricky,
    MGS2, Tekken 4, SC2, DOA3
    Okay, you do realize that out of that list, only
    Gran Turismo 3 has been released?

    Besides, DOA3 will be an Xbox exclusive
    for at least 6 months. I don't even know if it
    has been announced for PS2. Soul Calibur 2 will
    come to GameCube before PS2. Tekken 4 is nothing
    more than a rehash of Tekken Tag, which is
    nothing more than a rehash of Tekken 3. Lame.

    How often do you play 4 players? Also, out of the sweet DC games you listed above, how many are 4 players?
    Exactly! How often do I play 4 players? Not often.
    But it's nice to know, that those few times that
    I do play 4 players, I don't have to spend $30
    to do so. Try again.

    56k = Crap
    Sony will have ethernet and it is well worth $40. Do you have any idea how much a PC cable modem costs?
    Sega had a broadband adapter (it wasn't very
    well supported, but that's because not a lot
    of people have broadband connections
    ).

    I never understood this thing. Do you use it to play your DC games over your PC?
    You use it to play Playstation games on your
    Dreamcast. They've already emulated GT2, and
    are working on MGS, and Tekken 3. Read about
    it at www.bleem.com

    I don't buy a console system to do anything but play games.
    Well, I guess the PS2's DVD feature doesn't appeal
    to you then. (It doesn't even work on my TV/VCR)

    The things at dcemulation.com are all done by
    hobbiests. It's amazing what people can do with
    the system. NES/SNES/GENESIS/GAMEBOY emulators...
    MP3/MPEG players. They even got Linux to run
    on the Dreamcast. http://www.dcemulation.com/soft-linux.htm
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    I think it's funny when people think companies are evil when they become succesful So let me ask, did you think Sony was evil before the Playstation?
    They're evil because of the tactics they've use
    to sell their Products. They overhyped the PS2
    and didn't deliver as many as promised. They
    lied about the specs...

    They pressure retailers not to sell Bleemcast,
    even though when Sony sued Bleem, Bleem won.
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    Originally posted by static
    Okay, you do realize that out of that list, only
    Gran Turismo 3 has been released?
    The point is they will be. What great games are coming out for the DC?

    Originally posted by static
    not a lot of people have broadband connections
    Then they shouldn't be playing online gaming. Those 56ks kill online gaming.

    Originally posted by static
    You use it to play Playstation games on your
    Dreamcast.
    Geez, just buy a PS and stop being cheap.

    Originally posted by static
    Well, I guess the PS2's DVD feature doesn't appeal
    to you then.
    I love my DVD player. I'm talking about modding the thing. What's the point of running Linux on a console? Do you feel good or something because you "rebel" from the big bad corporation?

    Originally posted by static
    (It doesn't even work on my TV/VCR)
    And whos fault is that?

    -Fool
    Last edited by Fool; 09-10-2001 at 05:34 PM.

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    Console game systems are the best, but they are also very expensive. I don't know if I'll buy X-BoX or not. I'm moving to a new house this month, going to have a lot of room for a big screen TV but College is stiill in the way. I might have to wait until next year. I had a lot of fun with N64 though. I remember the days.
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    The point is they will be. What great games are coming out for the DC?
    Shenmue 2.

    Then they shouldn't be playing online gaming. Those 56ks kill online gaming.
    You obviously haven't tried it. Online play
    over dreamcast is fine. Especially for Phantasy
    Star Online. You should try something before
    you comment on it. Besides, since most people
    already have dial-up connections, there'll be
    more people online to play against. Good luck
    trying to find people that have a broadband
    connection, a PS2, and the PS2 broadband adapter.

    Dreamcast came with a 56 modem. There was nothing
    to subscribe to, nothing to buy. Just input your
    ISP information and you're ready to play online.

    Geez, just buy a PS and stop being cheap.
    Sony's cheap. They made the PSX easily
    over-heatable. I've bought 3 Playstations since
    1995. The first two were early models that didn't
    run on Zenith or some Magnavox television sets
    (good planning ahead Sony), and the third one
    is one of the newer models that has the over-
    heating protection-plate inside.

    Sega included a fan inside the Dreamcast.

    Besides, Bleem doesn't just allow you to play
    the games. It enhances them. It plays the game
    at a higher resolution with full-screen-anti-
    aliasing. There's no reason why Sony couldn't
    have added a similar graphic-enhancing feature
    to the PS2 (The smooth textures option doesn't
    do much). Go to bleem.com and check the tekken 3
    screenshots (use IE. For some reason the screen-
    shot window doesn't appear with Netscape).

    What's the point of running Linux on a console?
    Linux was an example. It has nothing to do with
    a 'big bad corporation.' The point is, average
    programmers have been able to do a lot of things
    with the Dreamcast. I doubt you'll ever see
    hobbiests creating cool things for the PS2.

    And whos fault is that?
    Sony's, obviously.
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    Originally posted by static
    Shenmue 2.
    Damn, I hope you have time to play all those sweet games

    Originally posted by static
    You obviously haven't tried it. Online play
    over dreamcast is fine. Especially for Phantasy
    Star Online. You should try something before
    you comment on it. Besides, since most people
    already have dial-up connections, there'll be
    more people online to play against. Good luck
    trying to find people that have a broadband
    connection, a PS2, and the PS2 broadband adapter.

    Dreamcast came with a 56 modem. There was nothing
    to subscribe to, nothing to buy. Just input your
    ISP information and you're ready to play online.
    Actually I did play NFL2K1 over the SegaNet and it sucked. Lagged like hell. Yeah you got a 56k modem but it always connected at 28.8 for me. And yes, you did have to buy SegaNet if you had AOL or a few other ISPs.

    I don't plan on playing the PS2 over the net. If I wanted to play games over the net I'd use my badass PC.

    Originally posted by static
    Sony's cheap.
    Which company is still in the console business? (Hint - The one that's making money.)

    Originally posted by static
    Linux was an example. It has nothing to do with
    a 'big bad corporation.' The point is, average
    programmers have been able to do a lot of things
    with the Dreamcast. I doubt you'll ever see
    hobbiests creating cool things for the PS2.
    They already have Linux for the PS2. Although I don't see a point to it all. Does it matter? I didn't buy a PS2 to "mod" it. I did for the games and for a nice DVD player.

    Originally posted by static
    Sony's, obviously.
    It seems to be yours. Talking about Sony being cheap and all. Since you seem to have so much cash go buy a newer TV and stop your *****ing.

    -Fool

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    Do you ever make sense?

    And yes, you did have to buy SegaNet if you had AOL or a few other ISPs.
    You don't need SegaNet. SegaNet is just a
    regular ISP. It doesn't even exist anymore. They
    moved it to Earthlink or something. Nobody ever
    needed Seganet...

    Which company is still in the console business?
    What the hell does that have to do with them
    being cheap? Ack! You don't make sense...

    Talking about Sony being cheap and all. Since you seem to have so much cash go buy a newer TV and stop your *****ing.
    Who said I have a lot of cash? My TV works fine
    with every console I own. It just doesn't work
    with the DVD feature of the PS2. I can play
    my PS2 games with no problem... Just can't watch
    DVD movies (no biggie. I wouldn't use the PS2
    to watch movies anyway).

    Face it, the Dreamcast was the better system. I've
    provided you with reasons why it is, and you have
    yet to provide reasons why the Playstation 2 is
    better. You've listed non-exclusive, non-released
    games. That doesn't show much.

    If the world wasn't full of hype-following morons,
    maybe people would've taken the time to actually
    study the consoles and then choose. Playstation2
    is living off of the success of the first machine.
    If Sony would've named it anything else, they
    wouldn't have sold as many. People were idiots
    for choosing the Playstation 2 over the Dreamcast.

    Peh, a lot of developers don't even like the PS2.
    Hideo Kojima, Lorne Lanning, and John Carmack have
    all made anti-Playstation 2 comments. Deal with
    it, the Dreamcast was better.
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    Originally posted by static
    You don't need SegaNet. SegaNet is just a
    regular ISP. It doesn't even exist anymore. They
    moved it to Earthlink or something. Nobody ever
    needed Seganet...
    You did when I tried to play it (when it was first availible). I just used my free 50 hours (which never started counting down) but if you wanted to play afterwards you couldn't use AOL. I remember my slow AOL days, hehe

    Originally posted by static
    Face it, the Dreamcast was the better system. I've
    provided you with reasons why it is, and you have
    yet to provide reasons why the Playstation 2 is
    better.
    If it was better then why is Sega out of the business? You have given me no solid reasons why Sega was better. Here, I'll give you the only reason you need...

    In the console business, games make a system. Sony has better games so they would have to be better. That's about as simple as I can make it for you junior.

    Originally posted by static
    Peh, a lot of developers don't even like the PS2.
    Hideo Kojima, Lorne Lanning, and John Carmack have
    all made anti-Playstation 2 comments.
    True, but they will continue to develop for it. You wanna know why? Because they make more money doing so.

    So the PS2 is hard to program for. It's still around isn't it?

    -Fool

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    Whatever. You don't know what your talking about.
    I've given you plenty of reasons why the Dreamcast
    was better. You've provided none on why the PS2
    is better. Deal with it, child.

    Sony doest not have better games!!!

    Dreamcast:
    Skies of Arcadia *
    Phantasy Star Online *
    Crazy Taxi **
    Crazy Taxi 2 *
    Sonic Adventure *
    Sonic Adventure 2 *
    Shenmue *
    NFL2K1 *
    Quake 3 Arena
    Unreal Tournament
    Virtua Tennis *
    Grandia II
    Seaman *
    Power Stone 2 *
    Jet Grind Radio *
    Soul Calibur *
    Dead or Alive 2
    Ecco the Dolphin *
    MDK2
    Rayman 2
    Baingain-O *
    Test Drive Le Mans
    MSR *
    Daytona Online *
    Street Fighter Alpha 3
    Street Fighter IIIrd Strike
    Marvel Vs. Capcom
    Marvel Vs. Capcom 2
    Resident Evil Code: Veronica
    Project Justice
    Worms World Party
    Gundam Side Story
    Tony Hawks Pro Skater 2 **

    * = Exclusive to DC
    ** = Also available on PSX/PS2, but better on DC

    Games make the system. Yes, I agree. And Dreamcast
    games are much, much better than PS2's. Only an
    idiot would disagree with that. It's only now
    that PS2 is finally getting some games that
    don't suck. Their launch was pathetic. All the
    games you listed haven't even been released.

    If it was better then why is Sega out of the business?
    Them leaving the business had nothing to do with
    the quality of the Dreamcast. The Dreamcast has
    been praised by both gamers and developers. The
    PS2 hasn't been.

    You did when I tried to play it (when it was first availible).
    You never needed Seganet! You needed a regular ISP
    (AOL isn't regular). That's all. Seganet isn't any
    different than any other ISP

    This argument is over. I win!

    Excuse spelling/grammar. I'm tired
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    Originally posted by static
    The Dreamcast has been praised by both gamers and developers.
    I guess that gamers liked the DC so much they bought a PS2 instead, huh?

    Originally posted by static
    The PS2 hasn't been.
    So you don't think that selling 12 million systems worldwide should be considered praise?

    Originally posted by static
    (AOL isn't regular)
    Yeah your right. They are only the biggest ISP in the world.

    I'm so tired of fanboys like you. I work for a website that deals with console gaming and the DC fanboys are pretty bad (nothing like the XBox ones though).

    All you've said in this thread is that the DC has better games than the PS2. You said that, you can never prove that, at least not to me. I'm not a fanboy by any means (I can't wait to see and play the GC). I just feel like the DC was a huge letdown and Sega was just trying a "last resort" to get some money back after some very bad years in the market. Now after their latest failure the finally realize they can't compete. How's that for a console company that you swear by? Pretty sad to me if you ask me

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    I guess that gamers liked the DC so much they bought a PS2 instead, huh?
    Hype! Pay attention, Fool.

    So you don't think that selling 12 million systems worldwide should be considered praise?
    No, I don't. I consider them hype-following dorks,
    who care more about what's popular than
    what's good.

    Yeah your right. They are only the biggest ISP in the world.
    Wow. I didn't know that "biggest" and "regular"
    were interchangable.

    I'm so tired of fanboys like you. I work for a website that deals with console gaming and the DC fanboys are pretty bad (nothing like the XBox ones though).
    Yeah, "work" for a gaming website. I have news
    for you... Going to geocities.com and registering
    for a free website isn't considered a job.

    I'm a Fanboy?!? Wrong. I've owned almost every
    console ever to be released. If anybody's a fanboy
    it's you. You like the PS2, but you can't say why.
    You can only name non-existant games. That's
    pretty lame.

    I'm not a fanboy by any means (I can't wait to see and play the GC).
    You obviously are.

    I just feel like the DC was a huge letdown and
    Sega was just trying a "last resort" to get some
    money back after some very bad years in the
    market.
    Huge letdown? You don't even know what you're
    talking about. You obviously don't own one. And
    you obviously have never spent enough time with
    one to form your own opinion. You're one of Sony's
    many puppets.

    Now after their latest failure the finally realize they can't compete.
    I never said they could compete. They obviously
    can't compete against Sony's ability to over-hype
    their products. The fact still is, there are
    currently more games worth playing on the
    Dreamcast, than there are on the PS2.

    Pretty sad to me if you ask me
    Yeah. You suck.
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    Nothing you say makes any sense you stupid mother****er. I won't continue this with someone of your intellegence. Think whatever you want, play your ****ty DC till you realize Sony is king. Personally I don't give a ****.

    -Fool

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    don't get your panties in a knot.

    I find that PS2 gams are largely boring after the first few hours of playing... the facade of graphics is used incorrectly by PS2 games for the most part.

    DC games are better, playability wise, but it's dieing, so who the hell knows?

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    Whoa.... Are you really arguing this heatedly over a damn game console?

    Cool it guys, its only a toy after all.

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