Does VISUAL C++ ruin C?

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    So basicalyl C# fails to be ansi compatible.
    Huh? What incentive does C# have to be compatible with any ANSI standard?
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    Yes, I strongly beleive that C# ruins C, I learnt C to get away from the horrible .NET framework. Anyway, if Visual C++ uses any part of microsoft's .NET framework it should be condemned for ruining the language.
    Also I strongly urge you all to boycott the .NET framework.
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    C++/CLI has C#, VB.NET, etc uses the dotNet Framework. C++ and C does not.
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    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
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    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

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    Also I strongly urge you all to boycott the .NET framework.
    That's kind of like telling people to boycott the ACLU. I'm sure there are people that depend on them - but really - what do they care if you're not using their services?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sean View Post
    That's kind of like telling people to boycott the ACLU. I'm sure there are people that depend on them - but really - what do they care if you're not using their services?
    Sean is right. Instead of boycotting one can simply be arrogant towards those who do use it. Just like how one should deal with the ACLU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P4R4N01D View Post
    Yes, I strongly beleive that C# ruins C, I learnt C to get away from the horrible .NET framework. Anyway, if Visual C++ uses any part of microsoft's .NET framework it should be condemned for ruining the language.
    Also I strongly urge you all to boycott the .NET framework.
    I don't use .NET or C# in my daily work. But I've used it a little bit. As somebody who has written a huge amount of code, I don't see what's so bad about it. Other than the fact that it came from Microsoft.

    If you are interested in writing only code backed by an international standard, then obviously you won't code in C# or use .NET. If not, I see no reason not to leverage it.
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    	if (a) do { f( b); } while(1);
    	else   do { f(!b); } while(1);
    //}

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