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    >>And to the Australians,
    >>I read that Grand Theft Auto 3 was banned in
    >>Australia because of it's content. Is this true?

    I'm afraid so.
    That damn sept 11 thing has led to the relection of a pretty right wing government.
    The guy who banned it is the same person opposing the Kyoto Protocol and is refusing to accept and refugees.

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    favourite video game? id have to say age of empires II.
    fovourite computer game? C++ programming, of course.

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    nvoigt,
    You live in Germany, right? I read something in
    some newsgroup that said it's against German
    law to sell video games that depict the killing
    of humans? Is this true? If it is, could you
    go to prison for playing Counterstrike?
    Well, not generally. It is not really against the law. If you are 18+, you can order and play any videogame you like. However, there exists a department for youth-protection, which will filter out games and other stuff that they think is harmful for teenagers. Those products may not be sold to underage people and may not be advertised in any way. That means magazines will not test the game and you will not see it on the shelves. If you want it, you have to know it exists and you have to ask for it.

    Killing humans itself is not against this law. However, the killing of humans to achieve your goal in the game is. Then, it also depends on the graphical way of displaying it. I wouldn't qualify Age of Empires as violent game. Ego shooters however...

    The result are some pretty easy to circumvent measures of the computer industry. You remember Command & Conquer ? To sell it openly in Germany, they colored the infantrists blood black and said it were only robots in the manual. Case closed, game sold.

    Also, most games have a violence level. Like Fallout for example. In the German version, you cannot set it to 'Violent' in the GUI. But hey, we are programmers... a little look for the INI file and a text editor gave me blood and explosions left and right

    Conclusion: Most versions here have less blood. If you want the real thing, you have to go order the english version, or tweak it a bit

    Another thing is nazi symbols. Displaying Nazi symbols for anything else but documentations is illegal. No matter if you are the good guy in Wolfenstein, no nazi symbols. Meaning: we got a special german version.

    I don't really care for more blood on the screen. I rarely play ego-shooters, and when I play Counterstrike, I don't want the guy to bleed all over my screen. I got him. Thats what counts.
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    scary

    Howdy nvgoit,
    i showed this to my teenager:

    ~~there exists a department for youth-protection, which will filter out games and other stuff that they think is harmful for teenagers.~~

    his response was "i wouldnt own any games if these guys were in America"

    i have to ask who are "they", i shudder to guess.

    M.R.

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    Well, um, people are allowed to have fun, that's the point of life, isn't it?
    In books you don't achieve anything, but in Yoshi's island you can beat the big baddie and get to the next level.
    Brian, aren't you contradicting yourself by saying that video games are enjoyable precisely because you aren't just having fun but because you are accomplishing a goal?
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    Originally posted by Brian
    Well, um, people are allowed to have fun, that's the point of life, isn't it?
    I completely agree. But to me, fun is not playing video games, sure at times they are entertaining. The thing I don't understand is that some of the people (the people I am speaking of are the ones who started the incident in class) - they make it seem that that is all they do. If they aren't coding they're playing. Just seems strange to me that that are the only thing that gives them satisfication (NOTE: I do not know these people well enough, so I am working off of observed conclusions). Add to that that they are taking away from class time talking about the latest game, which probably won't be on any midterm, so I don't need to know.

    posted by Brian
    Sure, I can get more fun out of The Stand (A book: Steven King, for those too stupid to know) ... In books you don't achieve anything, ...
    IMHO, King sucks, and The Stand is one of his wort, IMHO again. I would have to disagree with you on your contention that reading books doesn't achieve anything (if I understood it correctly). I believe that books help strengthen a person's imagination. Which would aid that person see solutions to problems that someone else couldn't have seen. Why? Because their imagination was not told what something should be, instead he/she was allowed to come up with their own interpretation of the situation. (may be a bad example, It seems clear when I read it, but I don't know if everyone will understand what I'm trying to convey ).
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    I like shooters like Unreal and Counterstrike, but I think the German versions of the games where the blood is e.g. green don´t make any sense.

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    > (A book: Steven King, for those too stupid to know)

    Stephen King, for those too stupid to spell.

    > IMHO, King sucks, and The Stand is one of his wort, IMHO again.

    Well, now you've gone and made me cry, Drakken...

    > but in Yoshi's island you can beat the big baddie and get to the next level.

    What is that achieving?

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    Originally posted by Govtcheez
    Well, now you've gone and made me cry, Drakken...
    Sorry Gov't, just never bought into King's hype. I was always let down by his work. I would see the title, then read the reviews and think "This has got to be one hell'uva book!". Buy it, take it home and start reading.

    Only to fall asleep by Chap 3. King just can't keep me awake. But that's just me. I know her has legions of fans. I'm just glad I didn't get flammed for thinking he sucks!

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    I liked Diablo...

    Ground Control is awesome

    Right now I am playing Max Pane (Pain... something like that) and I am liking it thoroughly....
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    Midtown Madness 1/2,
    Smash Bros. both,
    LOZ: Ocarina of Time,
    Starcraft,
    SimCity 3000 Unlimited,
    SC 2000,
    SimTower,
    SimFarm,
    Civ 2,
    Pokèmon Gold, Red, Stadium 2.
    ...
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    Stephen King, for those too stupid to spell.
    I never bouthg into King either, however the stuff he wrote under Bachman is pretty good. If you want to scare yourself about what human society and people are capable of I HIGHLY recomend Steven King/Bachman's The Long Walk and to a lesser extent The Running Man (the origianal not the way that Arnonld Shwartzinager messed it up).

    As for games (in no real order since the game depends on my mood:

    Escape Velocity (Mac)
    Civ 2
    Counter-Strike (PC)
    Team Fortress Classic,Map: Warpath (PC)
    SSN i688 by Janes (PC)
    Masters of Orion II (PC and Mac)
    NHL 2000 (PC)
    Mechwarrior 2 (PC and quite possibly the BEST overall game for any mood)
    Mechwarrior 4
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    As old school as everyone is here, I have to say it. I'm helplessly addicted to the new wave of MMORPGs. It began with EverQuest, which I played for 3 years, then I moved on to Anarchy Onlie (total crap, amateur coding laced with mem leaks and glossed over with graphics that were only feasable on next gen systems), now I play Dark Age of Camelot. And I anxiously await Star Wars Galaxies and Horizons: Empires of Istaria.
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    I'm with Bartman AOE II drains at least two hours of your life, every time i link up.

    games i can't stand majong & solitare(phuff)
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