Who's upset about the 250GB/month bandwidth limit imposed by Comcast?

This is a discussion on Who's upset about the 250GB/month bandwidth limit imposed by Comcast? within the A Brief History of Cprogramming.com forums, part of the Community Boards category; Originally Posted by Elysia Is it? I have never heard of limited bandwidth over here. At least never something that ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elysia View Post
    Is it? I have never heard of limited bandwidth over here.
    At least never something that makes it to news. And of course, my own connection is unlimited.
    Well it wouldn't make the news if it had already been in place for a long time. Besides... I'm not sure that I'm the only one who doesn't know where "here" is referring to in your case.
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    The point was that unlimited bandwidth isn't unheard of.
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    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elysia View Post
    The point was that unlimited bandwidth isn't unheard of.
    I think that point was made when master5001 typed "nearly."

    Regardless, your statement to back up the point is still invalid... even though the point wasn't in question in the first place. Anyway, I'm almost sensing some sort of defense mechanism coming out of you for asking where you're from... so please don't feel any pressure to answer it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlyMaelstrom View Post
    Besides... I'm not sure that I'm the only one who doesn't know where "here" is referring to in your case.
    I've been waiting to hear that answer for over a year now. I can only guess, based on the times she usually posts the most, that "here" is somewhere in Asia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cpjust View Post
    I've been waiting to hear that answer for over a year now. I can only guess, based on the times she usually posts the most, that "here" is somewhere in Asia.
    *shrug*

    I really don't care about the answer... it just seemed pertinent for us to understand the point s/he was making. Once this topic bites the dust then so will my interest.
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    Just a query, how much is this 250GB internet? Australia has no such thing, to get 24Mbps with 25GB is around $90 AUD. Australia has crap internet

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    Quote Originally Posted by zacs7 View Post
    Just a query, how much is this 250GB internet? Australia has no such thing, to get 24Mbps with 25GB is around $90 AUD. Australia has crap internet
    Hmm... agreed. My service offers 16Mbps (though I get 30-34Mbps on it for some reason) at the 250GB cap for about $55USD. Personally, I think a lot of people are complaining for nothing.
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    Well, I can only say you need to download a heavy amount of movies to transfer that much bandwidth each month.
    And just for the curious, my service is 24/10 (unlimited bandwidth) for around $40. Could be cheaper, but it's monopoly on this stupid apartment. So to speak anyway.
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    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elysia View Post
    Well, I can only say you need to download a heavy amount of movies to transfer that much bandwidth each month.
    And just for the curious, my service is 24/10 (unlimited bandwidth) for around $40. Could be cheaper, but it's monopoly on this stupid apartment. So to speak anyway.
    All regions in NY and NJ are monopolized somewhat by the ISPs. Basically, in any given town, you only have one option for highspeed internet. Recently with Verizon breaking this with its FIOS connections. Hopefully as they make a bigger impact we'll see the prices drop even more.

    Eventually, though, it's apparent that everyone will switch to FIOS once 30-40Mbps just isn't cutting it anymore and FIOS is the only option.
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    Over here we have unlimited bandwidth if we pay for it. Usually somewhere between 10 to 15 (us money). Otherwise the limit is pretty much agreed on by all providers to be on 60Gb on a 24Mbps connection.

    Last month I've been pretty much active with several linux distros downloads since I've become somewhat unhappy with my SUSE distribution on the lenovo laptop I bought a few months ago. Overall I spent 37Gb of active torrent downloads, listened to radio, chat on skype, updated a couple of websites and downloaded meaningless packges for Linux... I used up 46Gb in September. Honestly, I never used this much before.

    So... quiet frankly 250Gb is huge! Casual, gamers, and even power users won't feel a thing. Besides downloading and watching illegal movies is no excuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robwhit View Post
    I think this would affect gamers most. And the comparison between the average joe's bandwidth usage and an the average gamer's bandwidth usage is pretty disparate.
    Yes, gaming and running a chat program liek Ventrilo or Teamspeak eats enourmous bandwidth without it necessarily being 'illegal downloads'. Once again the industry is 10 years behind the times on what is actually occuring in their field. The base assumption is that using a lot of bandwidth either indicates illegal activity, or that it in some way harms the ISP. As stated above, the equipment costs the same to operate whether you use nothing or all the available capacity. It really boils down to the ISP's not wanting to expand capacity to meet demand and needing some way to justify that decision. Bandwidth isnt a typical commodity, if you dont use it t doesnt accumulate. When I sign a contract I am contracting for a certain bandwidth rate, not a certain total download amount. If They are goign to switch to a total download based model then I want my entire allocation in one second. If I buy 1000 pork bellies I expect them to all be delivered at one time, not trickled in 2 or 3 at a time as they feel liek it. If on the other hand I contract for 50 pork bellies a day that doesnt mean I want all 1500 at once either. If they are going to switch to an allocation based model they need to be extremely exploicit about what they are selling. Many ISP's tried this model in teh early days, compueserve even had a connection time based model. In the end the market determined that what people want is unrestricted access at the fastest rate possible.

    Ultimately I think they are just trying to switch tot he same business model as cellular service, because the math is simpler which means they need less technically saavy managers, which is alwasy a bad thing even if you can get away with it.
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    I really dont understand what everyone is complaining about. I pay 45 EUR / month to get 20 GB monthly (this includes up and download). And I even have to share this with 4 people... do the math yourselves (to #GB/daily_per_person) because I know I'll cry otherwise.

    Let me just hope my savings that are in the bank will last till the end of the year or even better that my bank will last till the end of the year (these days one can never know for sure), and maybe Ill be able to upgrade my internetconnection to another provider (more expensive but at least a higher limit).

    :edit:
    On the other hand I can understand that people feel upset about it, in the end you were used to a certain service and now the quality of it is less but you probably pay the same monthly fee.
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    No, it bothers me because it makes no sence, they arent increasing prices because the cost of bandwidth is goign up, they are arbitrarily puttign restirictions on use that are out of touch with the technollogy. It would be like a taxi charging you not by the mile, but by how many hot dog's the drivers cousin can eat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abachler View Post
    No, it bothers me because it makes no sence, they arent increasing prices because the cost of bandwidth is goign up, they are arbitrarily puttign restirictions on use that are out of touch with the technollogy. It would be like a taxi charging you not by the mile, but by how many hot dog's the drivers cousin can eat.
    They're doing it so they won't need to increase prices for the 95% of people who don't come anywhere close to that limit. Why should I have to pay more for bandwidth that I'm not using?
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    What rates do the ISPs pay to connect their networks to the trunk lines?
    Quote Originally Posted by zacs7 View Post
    Just a query, how much is this 250GB internet? Australia has no such thing, to get 24Mbps with 25GB is around $90 AUD. Australia has crap internet
    Probably because of all the transoceanic lines. That what you get for living on a giant island.

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