torrents are destroying the world

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    Quote Originally Posted by zacs7 View Post
    Not to mention with movies there is a period of time that you can't see the movie, even if you wanted to. Ie from the movies -> DVD there is usually a gap of a few months.
    We see movies at my college. ($2.50/person) I believe the club that does it gets them after the commercial theaters are done, but before the DVD release.
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    I single out torrents because they're the most widely spread medium of internet theft, and they have absolutely no danger in using them. Because torrents are a shared network of seeders, no one can do anything about it (especially the govt, which has to make sure they dont interfere with the internet). There's gotta be a better way to stop this than just "begging". We need to take some action... but how? I guess anti-torrent security from the publishers should improve, (like a USB hardware identifier that you need to put in the computer in order to install the product) but companies dont want to spend that much money to fight something that could actually help them.

    [EDIT] You know what, dont reply to that. What the hell am I trying to accomplish? I cant make a difference by complaining on a forum... this is stupid, I'm stupid. I'm just wasting my time and yours. The thing is, there are many problems just like this one that dont, and never will get resolved. You know why? Because no one will ever do anthing that will make a difference. How can they... they're just one person. One person can see a problem and tell people about it, try to show them, but nothing will get done. In fact, the other people will try to show you that's it not a big deal at all. This is a social issue, you can try everything: Increasing security, spreading information, elevating pirating laws. People will just find other ways, they always do. They'll crack it like they did serials and everything before.

    All I can do, all any of us can do.... is just sit there and watch it all go to hell. This is pointless. Thread over.
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    > like a USB hardware identifier that you need to put in the computer in order to install the product
    Doesn't work, never has. Not to mention it just punishes the consumers who do pay for the product. A perfect example is 3DS max (5 I think it was), which required a dongle to work... hopeless.

    Don't blame torrents, that's like blaming the street because people drag race on it. There are huge "underground" sites that give downloads of movies and games over FTP/HTTP ... perhaps we should ban those protocols too. Go for the people that sit in the movies with a camera, or upload the software, or crack it. There's less of them than the consumers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trennto View Post
    Have you noticed how much damage torrents are doing to the internet? People dont buy any software any more, they just get the torrent. I know a guy who has gigs of music for free, MS Word 2008 for free, the full Adobe CS3 set for free, tons of PC games (Civ4, Crysis, GoW, ect.) an anti-virus, the list goes on for ever... and it's all registered with a cracked serial too.

    Torrents need to be stopped somehow, software developers and musicians are being screwed every day... it's just not right (or legal). How much money has been stolen? WAY too much.
    You're a nut. Software piracy has existed since software has existed. Torrents are just the latest way of doing it. Before that were underground warez web sites, IRC, BBS, dialing up your buddy who had something you wanted, or even just copying floppy disks.

    I make my living writing software, and I still find your attitude extremely disturbing. BitTorrent is a technology, that's all.
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    PrimeGrid releases new sequences by torrent, so not all uses of torrent are bad. Don't blame murder on guns, blame the murderer's. Don't blame software piracy on torrents, blame the pirates. In both cases the problem existed long before the current method of choice, and the method serves far more legitimate purposes than illegitimate ones.
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    > Don't blame murder on guns, blame the murderer's.
    If only the pollys in Australia thought the same way... no airsoft, no semi-autos, no autos :'(

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    Quote Originally Posted by h3ro View Post
    To be honest I can see how people download software. It is not reasonable to expect all people to pay the incredible amount of money some of them cost.

    How do you expect students to learn say 3ds max when the software is so incredible expensive?
    Well, there is a Personal Learning Edition of Maya...

    http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet...112&id=7679012

    .. that's how students learn.

    Games are so abundantly available and affordable I cannot see any excuse for stealing them. I do not approve of the invasive copy protection systems some utilize but this small petty argument still does not give anyone the right to just blatantly steal games.
    Or music! People gotta stop pirating music, too. But because
    it's so easy, it'll never happen. Almost every person I've ever
    met that has an iPod has the thing mostly filled up with pirated
    music. It's ridiculous. Songs are usually less than a dollar;
    CDs usually less than $12. That's not an unreasonable price;
    EVEN IF THE ALBUM ENDS UP SUCKING! People spend as much
    going to a movie based on nothing but a 30second trailer.

    Lol. I also created an anti-Torrent thread about 3 years ago:
    How can Bit Torrent be destroyed?
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    People want more free contents
    Add more pay-to-download-monthly services and I'm sure many more will download legally!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elysia View Post
    Add more pay-to-download-monthly services and I'm sure many more will download legally!
    The problem is none of them carry Janis Joplin or any other music that people with credit cards tend to listen to. Sorry but im not paying a monthly fee for a bunch of degenerates yelling about how the man is screwing them over and teeny boppers squalling in their underwear.
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    Or music! People gotta stop pirating music, too. But because
    it's so easy, it'll never happen. Almost every person I've ever
    met that has an iPod has the thing mostly filled up with pirated
    music. It's ridiculous. Songs are usually less than a dollar;
    CDs usually less than $12. That's not an unreasonable price;
    EVEN IF THE ALBUM ENDS UP SUCKING! People spend as much
    going to a movie based on nothing but a 30second trailer.
    I agree. As a teenager I used to be more of the "freeloader" mindset...but honestly the prices really are not that bad. One should be willing to pay the appropriate amount of money for a product that he/she wants to have.
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    I make my living writing software, and I still find your attitude extremely disturbing. BitTorrent is a technology, that's all.
    Look, I'm sorry if I came across as blaming torrents as the problem. In case you didn't get it (or didn't really read the thread) the target is pirating in general. I just choose torrents to pick on because its the latest, easiest way to download anything you want, no consequences. Please, no more "Torrents are just a technology, don't blame the gun" crap. This thread is about the ridiculous amount of illegal software and music pirating going on right now and what it will end up doing.

    I make my living as a human, and I still find your attitude extremely disturbing. Pirating is theft, that's all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by indigo0086 View Post
    Who do you work for?
    I'm a 15 year old high school student. If anything, I'm working for all of you.
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    At 15, you dont make a living at all. You live off the generosity of your parents and society, and do not have the life experience to hold an informed opinion about a technology you barely understand. Spare us the childish blathering about how software piracy will doom us all. It just isn't so. Piracy has been around since before you or I or probably anyone alive were a twinkle in their momma's eye. It hasn't brought about armageddon yet. In fact quite the oposite. Microsoft owes its dominance of the OS market to the fact that in the formative years of personal computers DOS was easily pirated and thus used more widely than any other competing product.
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