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This is a discussion on Do you smoke? within the A Brief History of Cprogramming.com forums, part of the Community Boards category; Originally Posted by Yarin When I see someone smoking I will automatically presume them an extremely undisciplined and irresponsible person. ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yarin View Post
    When I see someone smoking I will automatically presume them an extremely undisciplined and irresponsible person. (Either that or just plain dumb.).
    Or maybe they just like to smoke.

    Personally, I like the hookah (or "argilli" in Arabic), but I only do that with the in-laws once a year at Thanksgiving. And yes, it's just plain old, non-wacky tobacky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by indigo0086 View Post
    Smokers consistently inhale the opposite of passably clean air to their lungs on a casual basis, generally take on the smell of said smoke, generally have bad dental and breath problems, and overall the smell makes non-smokers nauseous.

    If it quacks like a duck...
    So what? If a smoker want's to enjoy tobacco, and you don't, all smokers are suddenly extremely undisciplined and irresponsible persons?

    I think you have personal problems that are far worse than smokers annoying you..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo1 View Post
    So what? If a smoker want's to enjoy tobacco, and you don't, all smokers are suddenly extremely undisciplined and irresponsible persons?

    I think you have personal problems that are far worse than smokers annoying you..
    If a smoker wants to enjoy tobacco, (s)he'd better stay away from non-smokers while doing that. Otherwise (s)he's deliberately making non-smokers feel sick.

    To me all psychotropic things are quite equal. I don't care if someone is an alcoholic, smoker, or takes ecstasy pills. A drug addict is a drug addict. Addicts are all consumers of stuff that has drastic effects on their health and causes mental unstabilities.

    Luckily in Estonia it is forbidden to smoke in public indoor and outdoor places.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maxorator View Post
    If a smoker wants to enjoy tobacco, (s)he'd better stay away from non-smokers while doing that. Otherwise (s)he's deliberately making non-smokers feel sick.

    To me all psychotropic things are quite equal. I don't care if someone is an alcoholic, smoker, or takes ecstasy pills. A drug addict is a drug addict. Addicts are all consumers of stuff that has drastic effects on their health and causes mental unstabilities.

    Luckily in Estonia it is forbidden to smoke in public indoor and outdoor places.
    I can't wait for you to get to highschool and college so you can learn about literary fallacies, cause you use just about every one in the book. Here we are talking about tobacco smoking and you're talking about drugs that cause "mental unstabilities."
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    Quote Originally Posted by maxorator View Post
    If a smoker wants to enjoy tobacco, (s)he'd better stay away from non-smokers while doing that. Otherwise (s)he's deliberately making non-smokers feel sick.

    Bah. There's more dangerous toxins being belched from the exhausts of planes, trains and automobiles (not to mention countless industrial plant sources and their emissions) that dwarf anything the burning of a cigarette can do to non-smokers. We're all inhaling the same crapy air; to blame all of societies ills on tobacco use alone is simply illogical.

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    Okay, I was wrong; I change my statement to:

    When I see someone smoking I will automatically presume them an undisciplined or dumb person, or someone who just doesn't care about the consequences or prefers the pleasure over the lost life.

    All of which I see as bad.
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    I smoke because I like Yarin. I'm neither of the things you said. So what's your point exactly?

    Can you please understand the meaning of prejudice? I can certainly understand you don't like smoking or being around someone who smokes. It's your prerogative. But wen you start issuing judgment you are begging to be judged. And right now... I'd have you jailed for life.

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    That's true.
    You prefer the enjoyment of smoking over the risk of shortening your life. That's your preference. I guess it does makes sence when you think about it; that's exactly what we all do when we have a suger covered suger puff.
    I apologize.
    (Oh, I'm not being sarcastic, I know it could be read like that, so I'm just saying)
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    No smoking.
    I have no bad feelings about those who smoke. Just that they should not smoke in public. The smell and the smoke is choaking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlyMaelstrom View Post
    I can't wait for you to get to highschool and college so you can learn about literary fallacies, cause you use just about every one in the book. Here we are talking about tobacco smoking and you're talking about drugs that cause "mental unstabilities."
    Oops. Wanted to say "mental issues" (like addiction).

    Yeah I don't really care if someone smokes. But if they do it near me, then GAAAAAAA!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by maxorator View Post
    Oops. Wanted to say "mental issues" (like addiction).

    Yeah I don't really care if someone smokes. But if they do it near me, then GAAAAAAA!!!!
    So, I suppose it's more of a misunderstanding of what addiction is, then. Tobacco addiction is a physical addiction, not a mental addiction. Your body builds a reliance on the substance and just in the same manner that you need to eat food, your body tells you that you need to smoke a cigarette, regardless of whether or not you know that you shouldn't. Honestly, I think if you read up on this stuff, you'd get a few good nights of entertainment out of it.
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    There's a slight mental addiction too Sly. Among smokers it's called (hope the translation is a direct one), social habit. And it goes to explain why people that have stopped smoking for several years, feel a sudden urge in certain environments or situations.

    It also serves to explain one strange phenomena; Studies indicate that our the physical addiction is quiet easily overcomed by our organism. It seems that after 3 days our body forgot all about nicotine. However, it takes much longer than that for us to feel relieved of the addition.
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    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mario F. View Post
    There's a slight mental addiction too Sly. Among smokers it's called (hope the translation is a direct one), social habit. And it goes to explain why people that have stopped smoking for several years, feel a sudden urge in certain environments or situations.

    It also serves to explain one strange phenomena; Studies indicate that our the physical addiction is quiet easily overcomed by our organism. It seems that after 3 days our body forgot all about nicotine. However, it takes much longer than that for us to feel relieved of the addition.
    I've seen those studies. I do agree about the social habit aspect of it, however... I've seen studies that dispute the three day addiction relieve theories. Ones based more on gender, weight, anscetory, length of smoking habit, amount of smoking habit, etc... it shows how body-to-body some may overcome the addiction fast while others take a long time. It also explained while some people develop lung cancer much easier than others.

    If I find the articles, I'll post them. They are a good read.

    As for the social habit... while I agree it's real. It's just far too common for me to consider it a mental issue. Social pressure exists well outside of the realm of drugs and I think everyone is completely susceptible to it.
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    I've smoked for several years.

    These days I normally go through a pack in a day or so. Normally I buy in bulk when I can to avoid withdrawl since it kinda sucks. I will probably quit in my later years.

    I'll put out my cigarette if someone asks me. That's not a big deal, it's courtesy and I can wait to smoke again. But, when you come up to me like a pompous a-hole and start preaching - to an empty choir, no less - just remember: as a non-smoker, it bothers you. As a smoker, it always kills me. I think I'm getting the short end. Let me be happy in my ignorance or whatever you want to call it; you can't please everybody all the time.
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    I smoke. Just maybe 7 to half a pack a day.
    Kinda a funny story. I use to not wanna smoke, but whenever I would hit the bottles that changed. I always wanted to smoke when I was drunk but everytime I tried I put the wrong end in my mouth, ya...the lit end ( I always bummed someone elses already lit ciggy back then).

    I would never pay attention to what I was smoking and I would do it without looking. Anyways that happened twice but I got it right another time when I was wasted. Been smokin' ever since.

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