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Joe100
09-24-2003, 07:02 PM
hey guys I know this shouldn't be in here or atleast i think so.......well anyway, I wanted to ask you guys do any of you know "HTML"? If so could u help me out a little bit with it cuz i have really no clue??? what im doing
major_small
09-24-2003, 07:22 PM
probably most of us do...
damonbrinkley
09-24-2003, 08:46 PM
http://www.htmlgoodies.com/primers/basics.html
confuted
09-24-2003, 09:47 PM
Originally posted by Joe100
hey guys I know this shouldn't be in here or atleast i think so.......well anyway, I wanted to ask you guys do any of you know "HTML"? If so could u help me out a little bit with it cuz i have really no clue??? what im doing

Frozzle up the gronal and then apply the jiggly. Hope that helps!


Translation: What the heck are you asking? I'm not going to write a frickin' HTML tutorial, but I could probably answer a specific question.
brunomiranda
09-25-2003, 07:04 AM
In answer to your elaborate question:
-- Start from the begginng and work your way to the end --
rajesh23
10-08-2003, 02:23 AM
hi

tell me what is your problem with HTML? I will help you

raajesh
FloatingPoint
10-09-2003, 10:44 AM
That's the spirit, guys :D
major_small
10-09-2003, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by brunomiranda
In answer to your elaborate question:
-- Start from the begginng and work your way to the end -- haha... that's great... :D
Joe100
10-11-2003, 09:44 AM
Rajesh i need to know how to put a srolling bare ong the side of my page so i can put the links there also i need to now how to make borders around my text all ur help will be greatly appricated
JaWiB
10-11-2003, 11:53 AM
Look up frames on google

I'm not sure about borders around text, but there might be some style in css that would create the desired effect...I'm a bit rusty, but I think this might work:
(put this within <head> tags)


<STYLE type="text/css">
<!--

h3
{
width=100%;
filter:glow(color=red, strength=5);
}
//-->
</STYLE>


then in the body:


<h3>Some text</h>
major_small
10-11-2003, 08:57 PM
you could also put the text in a table, for example:
...
<table cellpadding='10' border='1'>
<tr><td>text goes here</td></tr>
</table>
...
civix
10-11-2003, 09:06 PM
I hope to god we know HTML... and what are you doing as an aspiring webmaster on a C programming board? O.o
Joe100
10-12-2003, 04:57 PM
Well first off I program with C++ thats what im doing on the board and second of all i need HTML for my website
major_small
10-12-2003, 07:42 PM
how did you not learn any HTML on your way to C++?
Joe100
10-13-2003, 11:12 AM
because html is nothing like C++ man u just like digraded urself by asking that
major_small
10-13-2003, 07:19 PM
if you say so... but i don't know anybody who learned C++ before HTML...
Iamien
10-13-2003, 07:38 PM
/raises hand :P
HTMl iritated me. C++ is much more peacefull too me. Only reason i know HTMl is cause of the summer i had with PHP, a short lived flame, returned to the every burning love i have for a true language like c++ :P
Glirk Dient
10-13-2003, 08:35 PM
Ok, I learned HTML a while ago(After C++...well after I began C++)

Anyways, I know you gotta make a seperate page that tells to make 2 pages, and tell what sizes. Then you gotta link each window to a seperate pages, so that's 3 different pages alltogether.

I could go look it up and tell you, but I am tired, lazy and I figure theres too many HTML tutorials on the web to count.
major_small
10-14-2003, 06:44 AM
here's teh code for a framesource (i use them on my website http://www.johnshaoonline.com)

<html>
<head>

<frameset cols="16%,*">
<frame src="framesrc.htm" name="navigation" scrolling="no"></frame>
<frame src="home.htm" name="main"></frame>

</frameset>
</head>
</html>

now create two pages called framesrc.htm (or whatever you decide to use) and home.htm (same as before) and the framesrc will take up 15% of the screen (or whatever you put in) and the home will take up the rest of the screen (same as before)

clarifying:
things that can be changed: 16%,*,framesrc.htm,navigation,no,home.htm,main

pretty much anything in the quotes...
Joe100
10-14-2003, 01:29 PM
thnxs
major_small
10-14-2003, 02:05 PM
sorry i didn't post it earlier... I didn't see the question you asked.
Joe100
10-14-2003, 06:45 PM
np dude but one question do i like put the text some where in that code or do i just type it in my advanced html area and just like put it somewhere
JaWiB
10-14-2003, 08:22 PM
np dude but one question do i like put the text some where in that code or do i just type it in my advanced html area and just like put it somewhere



:confused:
i cant understand what you are like talking abt :rolleyes:
major_small
10-15-2003, 06:22 AM
hmm... neither do i... i'll put it this way:

save that page as index.html
create a page called framesrc.html
write the links and everything on the left 16% of the page in it
create a page called home.html
write what's going to be in the rest of the screen in there
open the index.html page, and you'll see all three of them... actually you'll see the other two in frames on the first one, but you won't tell that your actually looking at the first one... try it and you'll see what i mean.
Joe100
10-15-2003, 03:35 PM
thats not what i want to do though i already have the page up and stuff and im using aol hometown the problem is that i have to use an advanced html button to put things in but the pages r saved as html
major_small
10-15-2003, 07:50 PM
create a new HTML page (with the 'advanced' editor) and put the page you already made in the "home.htm" part... if the page your using is already named home.html or index.html, rename it to something else and put that (^see above post^) page as the home.html or index.html page...

note: it should be index.html because that's what's used as, well, the index page.
Joe100
10-16-2003, 04:31 AM
ummm ok well i got the frames on but now i have another problem i need a side scroller so i can put my links in
major_small
10-16-2003, 05:51 AM
if your links go far enough down, the scroller will appear on it's own...

//edit: make sure you take out the "scrolling='no'" part or change the 'no' to 'yes'...
FloatingPoint
10-16-2003, 10:39 AM
If you use a GUI HTML editor, e.g. Dreamweaver, creating frames should only take less than 5 minutes...
frenchfry164
10-16-2003, 10:50 AM
I learned HTML when I was 9 years old. I didn't even have the internet back then, I just made HTML pages and looked at all the pretty things I could do.

Speaking of HTML, I should have an update for my site soon (long needed). Right now it is utter crap, because I started it one day and never got a chance to finish it. I hate school :p.
Joe100
10-16-2003, 05:47 PM
well could u help me with the side scrolloer so i can put my links in i want to seperate the page into 2 parts
major_small
10-16-2003, 07:20 PM
i already told you how... did you try it?
Joe100
10-17-2003, 04:31 AM
ya i did i put it on the advanced html area and i put it on the page but it doesnt do anything when I load the page
major_small
10-17-2003, 08:18 AM
i'm lost now... tell me exatcly what you did?
Joe100
10-17-2003, 02:45 PM
ok well im using aol hometown to run my webpage it has an advanced html option so i can put things in ok now when i put the second scroller on so i can split the page into 2 parts so i can have a place to put my links..... so when i save it on there i go to preview it with my web browser and the thing doesnt appear
Waldo2k2
10-17-2003, 04:27 PM
omg

http://www.htmlgoodies.com

read a freaking tutorial already, you have no clue whats going on.
Joe100
10-17-2003, 04:58 PM
plz delete ur post i will not have bashing in my post also ive been to that $$$$ing site it sucks ass it doesn't help me a bit
so learn and think before u speak
Waldo2k2
10-17-2003, 05:22 PM
>>plz delete ur post
whatever

>> i will not have bashing in my post
as opposed to swearing?

>>it sucks ass it doesn't help me a bit
thats funny, taught me everything I know (and that's quite a bit)

>>so learn and think before u speak
you're one to talk:rolleyes:

Listen, you don't have the basics down. That site will help you if you read it, also do www.w3schools.com it has interactive exercises with the lessons.
Somehow though i don't think you should be allowed near a computer, or out in public.
Joe100
10-18-2003, 07:20 AM
been there to doesnt help me with what i need
Waldo2k2
10-19-2003, 12:09 AM
>>doesnt help me with what i need

what you need is to find another board, whenever someone suggests something you tell them it's crap and it won't help you. You know C you said, so why the hell are you having such trouble with html? All you have to do is this:

<html>
<head>
<title>Example</title>
</head>

<body>
<h1>EXAMPLE</h1>
<br>
<br>
<font color="red">
This is an example page with red font
</font>
</body>
</html>

so stay away from those lame editors from aol and just code it all by hand and read up on more tutorials. That's all that's going to help you...I dont' think people appreciate you shooting down advice and asking people to write code for you.
Shadow
10-19-2003, 01:17 AM
I agree with Waldo2k2. He has a fairly good grasp on what he's saying.

A few general thoughts came to mind while reviewing this thread of yours Mr. Joe100 -

1. Are you 13?
2. Did you fail English?
3. Man, your grammar, punctuation, and text is plain hard and annoying to read.
4. HTML Goodies is one of the best plain HTML websites IMO.
5. HTML, IMO, is way more basic and easy than C/C++, so you should have no trouble. I've written a few programs(In C) to scan a folder on my computer for JPGs and then create an HTML page to display them - I have a good idea where I'm coming from.
6. My website Bits & Pieces (http://bitsandpieces.logistixweb.net) uses a frame setup.

My website is very very basic, as you can tell(if you even looked, heh). Why? Because I've made a few websites myself, and I have no time for anything elaborate anymore. I used to have a more complex layout, but it was too time consuming. I concentrate on content.

Before you even think about trying to speak again please think of the following:

- You need to be more open to other people's suggestions.

- When you are trying to explain a problem, please use a grammar and spelling level beyond 3rd grade so we all can understand you more clearly, _hence_ helping you more effectively.

- Try to resist from displaying an attitude, this will yield lots of results.

- HTML goodies has tutorials which cover very basic HTML concepts, and then tutorials which cover more complex topics. Use them wisely, many others already have.

- Try to code with a very bare-bones document editing program such as notepad, or EditPad Lite, or something similar. Don't get too fancy. All you need is a text editor which has decent tab configuration, and some way to immediately open your html output with the press of a button. Stay away from any type of junk program which generates code for you. You will only be robbing yourself.
major_small
10-19-2003, 09:23 AM
Originally posted by Shadow
- Try to code with a very bare-bones document editing program such as notepad, or EditPad Lite, or something similar. Don't get too fancy. All you need is a text editor which has decent tab configuration, and some way to immediately open your html output with the press of a button. Stay away from any type of junk program which generates code for you. You will only be robbing yourself. tip of the day right there... jeebus... AOL hometown? why do they call it advanced... IMO, you should at least know a good amount of HTML to create any website... I'll give you leeway for using a WYSIWYG for the exact placement and DIV layer stuff, but come on...

Originally posted by Joe100
ok well im using aol hometown to run my webpage it has an advanced html option so i can put things in ok now when i put the second scroller on so i can split the page into 2 parts so i can have a place to put my links..... so when i save it on there i go to preview it with my web browser and the thing doesnt appear I told you several times already, but i'll do it again:

A. Page One
1. This defines the frames
2. put the code i gave you before into it
3. see code below (again)
4. link to this page ONLY
5. name it something (index.html if it's your index page)
B. Page Two
1. this defines the left side
2. name it the same thing you named it in page one (leftpage.html)
3. write it so that everything will fit where you want it
4. the scroller will appear when your content goes below the length of the page
C. Page Three
1. this is your main page
2. name this page what you named it in page one (rightpage.html)
3. it will appear on the right side of your page
4. it's own scroller will appear when your content goes below the page length*code tags used for spacing

<html>
<head>

<frameset cols="16%,*">
<frame src="leftpage.html" name="navigation"></frame>
<frame src="rightpage.html" name="main"></frame>

</frameset>
</head>
</html>
Joe100
10-19-2003, 09:37 AM
Well i found the code but I ran into another problem


<html>

<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 4.0">
<meta name="ProgId" content="FrontPage.Editor.Document">
<title>Links</title>
<base target="main">
<bgsound src="music/Track%2006.wav" loop="-1">
<style fprolloverstyle>A:hover {color: #FFFFFF; text-decoration: line-through; font-weight: bold}
</style>
</head>
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<script language="JavaScript" type="text/JavaScript">
<!--
function MM_reloadPage(init) { //reloads the window if Nav4 resized
if (init==true) with (navigator) {if ((appName=="Netscape")&&(parseInt(appVersion)==4)) {
document.MM_pgW=innerWidth; document.MM_pgH=innerHeight; onresize=MM_reloadPage; }}
else if (innerWidth!=document.MM_pgW || innerHeight!=document.MM_pgH) location.reload();
}
MM_reloadPage(true);
//-->
</script>

<body bgcolor="#000000" text="#C0C0C0" link="#C0C0C0" vlink="#C0C0C0" alink="#C0C0C0" background="images/bg.gif">
<script language="JavaScript" type="text/JavaScript">
document.writeln(''); var sbm_ar = new Array(); document.writeln('');
document.writeln(''); sbm_ar.push("Hi!"); document.writeln('');
document.writeln(''); sbm_ar.push("Welcome to LBD homepage"); document.writeln('');
document.writeln(''); sbm_ar.push("Please Enjoy Your Stay!"); document.writeln('');


function jsstatusbarmessagerun() {
var text = sbm_ar[currentMessage];
window.defaultStatus = "";
if (offset < text.length) {
if (text.charAt(offset) == " ") offset++;
var partialMessage = text.substring(0, offset + 1);
window.status = partialMessage;
offset++;
setTimeout("jsstatusbarmessagerun()",tpause,"JavaScript");
} else {
window.status = text;
offset = 0;
currentMessage++;
if (currentMessage >= sbm_ar.length) currentMessage = 0;
setTimeout("jsstatusbarmessagerun()",tpause2,"JavaScript");
}
}

var tpause=100;
var tpause2=1000;
var currentMessage = 0;
var offset = 0;

setTimeout("jsstatusbarmessagerun()",tpause,"JavaScript");
</script>


<table border="1" width="99%" bordercolor="#333333" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" bgcolor="#000000" height="716" background="images/wall2.jpeg">
<tr>
<td width="100%" height="100">
<table border="1" width="97%" bordercolor="#333333" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" bgcolor="#000000" height="480" background="images/wall2.jpeg">
<tr>
<td width="100%" height="2" background="images/pred3.jpeg">
<p align="center"><font size="4" face="Franklin Gothic Medium"><b>Sight
Navigation!</b></font>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="100%" height="4">
<hr>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="100%" height="16" background="images/pred3.jpeg">
<p align="center"><font face="Arial Black" size="3"><b>-=Links=-</b></font></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="100%" height="7" background="images/bg.gif">
<hr>
<tr>
<td width="100%" height="19"><a href="http://hometown.aol.com/timestalker89/newandevents"><font face="Century Gothic" size="2"><b>News & Events</b></font></a></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="100%" height="19"><a href="http://hometown.aol.com/timestalker89/pictures"><font face="Century Gothic" size="2"><b>Pictures</b></font></a></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="100%" height="19"><a href="http://hometown.aol.com/timestalker89/allaboutlbd"><font face="Century Gothic" size="2"><b>All about LBD</b></font></a></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="100%" height="23"><a href="http://hometown.aol.com/timestalker89/bio"><font face="Century Gothic" size="2"><b>Biography</b></font></a></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="100%" height="10"><a href="http://hometown.aol.com/timestalker89/products"><font face="Century Gothic" size="2"><b>Products</b></font></a></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="100%" height="10"><a href="http://hometown.aol.com/timestalker89/songs"><font face="Century Gothic" size="2"><b>Songs</b></font></a></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="100%" height="10"><a href="http://hometown.aol.com/timestalker89/icons"><font face="Century Gothic" size="2"><b>Icons</b></font></a></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="100%" height="1" background="images/bg.gif">
<hr>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
</tr>
</table>
</td>
</tr>
</table>

</body>


i need someone to help with the height on this becuase its like pushing my page down and i want it to like be all the items tightly together
major_small
10-19-2003, 09:42 AM
<table border="1" width="99%" bordercolor="#333333" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" bgcolor="#000000" height="716" background="images/wall2.jpeg"> your assuming that my screen is 716 pixels high?


just one more thing... All contents on this page are copyrighted © by the site owner any copying of these contents will be dealt with by the lawso your saying that these are copyrighted by you?
http://hometown.aol.com/timestalker89/images/bloodbar_e0.gif
http://hometown.aol.com/timestalker89/images/pentani2.gif
http://hometown.aol.com/timestalker89/images/explodingfire.gif
http://hometown.aol.com/timestalker89/images/tutga5fire.gif
because i know i've seen all of them before...

and your going to take credit for all this:
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 4.0">
<meta name="ProgId" content="FrontPage.Editor.Document">
<title>Links</title>
<base target="main">
<bgsound src="music/Track%2006.wav" loop="-1">
<style fprolloverstyle>A:hover {color: #FFFFFF; text-decoration: line-through; font-weight: bold}
</style>
</head>
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<script language="JavaScript" type="text/JavaScript">
<!--
function MM_reloadPage(init) { //reloads the window if Nav4 resized
if (init==true) with (navigator) {if ((appName=="Netscape")&&(parseInt(appVersion)==4)) {
document.MM_pgW=innerWidth; document.MM_pgH=innerHeight; onresize=MM_reloadPage; }}
else if (innerWidth!=document.MM_pgW || innerHeight!=document.MM_pgH) location.reload();
}
MM_reloadPage(true);
//-->
</script>

<body bgcolor="#000000" text="#C0C0C0" link="#C0C0C0" vlink="#C0C0C0" alink="#C0C0C0" background="images/bg.gif">
<script language="JavaScript" type="text/JavaScript">
document.writeln(''); var sbm_ar = new Array(); document.writeln('');
document.writeln(''); sbm_ar.push("Hi!"); document.writeln('');
document.writeln(''); sbm_ar.push("Welcome to LBD homepage"); document.writeln('');
document.writeln(''); sbm_ar.push("Please Enjoy Your Stay!"); document.writeln('');


function jsstatusbarmessagerun() {
var text = sbm_ar[currentMessage];
window.defaultStatus = "";
if (offset < text.length) {
if (text.charAt(offset) == " ") offset++;
var partialMessage = text.substring(0, offset + 1);
window.status = partialMessage;
offset++;
setTimeout("jsstatusbarmessagerun()",tpause,"JavaScript");
} else {
window.status = text;
offset = 0;
currentMessage++;
if (currentMessage >= sbm_ar.length) currentMessage = 0;
setTimeout("jsstatusbarmessagerun()",tpause2,"JavaScript");
}
}

var tpause=100;
var tpause2=1000;
var currentMessage = 0;
var offset = 0;

setTimeout("jsstatusbarmessagerun()",tpause,"JavaScript");
</script>
...but you can't create frames?
Joe100
10-19-2003, 05:23 PM
no im not but most of the pics are mine that i made ok all contents and writing im so sorry i didn't specify master
anyway no thats not what i want to change thats the width of the item i want to chang the height of it the bar is pushing my items on my page apart as u could see lol and also to add to this no i cant make frames lol do i have to write the content in the advanced html item with the frame code or can i just leave it without the content in the advanced html or can i do both and if i can which one is easier
Joe100
10-19-2003, 06:17 PM
oh and also i have another problem i can't get the scroll bar so it will scroll down
axon
10-19-2003, 06:55 PM
I really wanted to hold back on this, but I can't. Joe100, again you have out done yourself! Instead of learning a computer language, even as simple as HTML, you should learn English first!!!!

Your questions make absolutely no sense, and one has to really think to figure out what you really want.

As for your HTML problems, there are thousands of tutorials on the web...try google for a change. Do you expect people to hand you a finished product on a freaggin silver platter. You have to get the shiz out of your eyes man. I don't know how old you are, but you can't get through life with people doing your work all the time. Is it because you are a poor reader that you do not understand the great tutorials which have been posted here?

Put some effort into whatever you are doing, and for Christ sake spend more time studying in your English class than CS. Your communication skills are horrible.

axon

P.S.

BTW, joe100 is American, that is why such harsh comments! I would never say anything similar to the many people who post on this board, to whom English is a second or even third language.
major_small
10-19-2003, 07:32 PM
Originally posted by Joe100
no im not but most of the pics are mine that i made ok all contents and writing im so sorry i didn't specify masterIt's not that I really care... I don't pay attention to most copyrighted material anyway because I mostly use my own stuff... but you could be stepping on somebody else's copyright... I could just as easily take the images off your site and say i copyrighted them... and since you didn't give a year or anything i would easily win that unless you have some solid proof against me...

//edit: by the way... copyright (M$ sytle) == evil... GNU Public License == god... if you call me a communist in a bad way i'll never help you again...
Waldo2k2
10-19-2003, 09:50 PM
>>do i have to write the content in the advanced html item with the frame code or can i just leave it without the content in the advanced html or can i do both and if i can which one is easier

The easiest way would to STOP USING HOMETOWN TO BUILD YOUR PAGES.
Write the pages in a text editor (i like www.textpad.com) then upload the pages. You can do all the testing on your computer before uploading, only to find out that it doesn't look right. And why the hell are you using aol? It seems weird to me, most people who know anything about computers and the net totally dislike aol...is it your only option or something?
Joe100
10-20-2003, 02:46 PM
actually axon if people didnt understand me then people wouldn't be replying with help no would they and u say I'm bad and becuase I'm amercican i say harsh comments lol that is so hypicritical dude you just said that u wouldnt say harsh comments when you just cam on and disrespected the way i talk jackass anyway ok i will try that waldo but im confused by what u mean by the uploading it I don't know how