Cold Fusion!

[2PhAt]

ok,guys..
There is one problem i want to know about cold fusion.
how to run the whole program when i want to executed it?
do i have to install any software or programming language on the os?i just want to know the answer by tommorrow morning?
hope u guys can provide the answer to me as soon as u can.
see yeah.bye!

[OneStiffRod]

COLDFUSION is a very expensive program from Macromedia.

http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/

U need to install the program on the server, and a browser will execute your .cfm web pages.

[Vber]

You'll need a special support for the browser to enable him to "understand" CFM. You can do this, by installing the Macromedia ColdFusion MX pack, or, uploading your application to an server the supports ColdFusion, try googling, to see if you find one, good luck.

[2phat]

alright,i got what u meant?it's just like a microsoft office like u said.
just using the program...and execute it when u wanna to run the program?am i rite?

[OneStiffRod]

I don't think you need ANY special software to view .cfm web pages - they are treated as regular HTML pages.

We are not really sure what u want to do with COLD FUSION, I am not sure if u really know what COLD FUSION is. It is a SERVER SIDE SOFTWARE that enables you to create web pages that are connected to a database and you can do other conditional processing with it.

It's like PHP which this site uses.

[2phat]

well,rod
I want to create my own web pages.That's why i'm using the cold fusion.recently,i just heard about it and i'm not really know everything about it.i have search for the info about it.In the back there it contains the databases.Unlike html.This is why i love it?

If u know more about cold fusion.Pls telll me more about it.Would yeah?


"It is a SERVER SIDE SOFTWARE that enables you to create web pages that are connected to a database and you can do other conditional processing with it."


Up there,it like the web pages that are already connected to the databases and just need to do some extra coditional processing with it. Am i rite,rod? is it what u meant?


how about if i created my own web pages before i connected to my databases? will it allowed me? or the purposed of cold fusion is just to do the extra processing to the webpages that are connected to the databases. WIsh to know more...
so curious............... thax,dude!

[OneStiffRod]

Cold Fusion is a nice program IF...

1) you are running you're own server
2) have $1,200 - $4,000 to spend
3) if u like HTML/XML as that is what the syntax resembles
4) if u know, HTML, XML, Java, Javascript, SQL.

Cold Fusion is not really an HTML EDITOR(wysiwyg) as far as I know, you would have to shell out an additional $2,000 to get the STUDIO version. OR you can get Dreamweaver.
--here's a tutotial and explanation about Cold Fusion--
http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/programming/coldfusion/tutorials/tutorial2.html

Since I don't know you're situation - what u want to do, what kinda server setup you have - I cannot tell u whether u SHOULD get Cold Fusion.

[-KEN-]

brinkster.com has free CFM support, I believe...

[Vber]

Originally posted by OneStiffRod
Cold Fusion is a nice program IF...

1) you are running you're own server
2) have $1,200 - $4,000 to spend
3) if u like HTML/XML as that is what the syntax resembles
4) if u know, HTML, XML, Java, Javascript, SQL.

Cold Fusion is not really an HTML EDITOR(wysiwyg) as far as I know, you would have to shell out an additional $2,000 to get the STUDIO version. OR you can get Dreamweaver.
--here's a tutotial and explanation about Cold Fusion--
http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/programming/coldfusion/tutorials/tutorial2.html

Since I don't know you're situation - what u want to do, what kinda server setup you have - I cannot tell u whether u SHOULD get Cold Fusion.

Hmm, about the 4).
it's not true, you dont need to know Java or even SQL to learn and work with CFM. CFM treats DB in such easy way, even easier then PHP! Whats correct to say is to learn CFM you need a very strong DOM base.

[RoD]

Originally posted by Vber
Hmm, about the 4).
it's not true, you dont need to know Java or even SQL to learn and work with CFM. CFM treats DB in such easy way, even easier then PHP! Whats correct to say is to learn CFM you need a very strong DOM base.

I disagree; I'm with onestiff on this one, in order to fully utilize CFM you should know HTML, XML, Java, Javascript, and SQL.

[Vber]

Are you crazy? have you ever looked at cfm?
you'll never find there OOP, not even close :)
so why need Java? (for the syntax? not even close) JS is ok, just like I said (DOM).

Hmm, you know what's DOM?


I don't see why you need to know java to learn cfm.

[OneStiffRod]

The new MX version is tied to JSP (java server pages) and allows you to do alot more stuff - but you gotta know java.

[Vber]

JSP != ColdFusion, not even close.
The real alaire cfm, isn't based on jsp, not in java and so on.

It's syntax is based in DOM, that's it.

[OneStiffRod]

I won't say anything other than, I refer you to this article...

http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/mx/coldfusion/articles/java.html

[RoD]

damn, OSR beat me to it :P

[Vber]

Originally posted by OneStiffRod
I won't say anything other than, I refer you to this article...

http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/mx/coldfusion/articles/java.html

I still can learn ColdFusion, without learning Java.
I can add j2ee elements, in DW too :)

[RoD]

Originally posted by Vber
I still can learn ColdFusion, without learning Java.
I can add j2ee elements, in DW too :)

Yes you COULD learn the BASE of it, but without knowing java you would be unable to implement ColdFusion at its highest element.

[Vber]

Yes you COULD learn the BASE of it, but without knowing java you would be unable to implement ColdFusion at its highest element.


No, I can build extremely dynamic sites without using j2ee, I'll need to know some functions about connecting to database, some about sessions and thats it.

Java will help but its not 100% necessary to know..
If you know Java you will prefer to build your website with JSP.