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f0ul
05-09-2002, 01:11 PM
I have used both Red Hat, and Mandrake and I finally found SuSE and personally I found it the best - but to tell the truth, there really isn't that much difference.

Is the fav distro down to image rather than anything else?

I know SuSe is German, but it seems to be the favourite in Europe where as Red Hat, being the US saviour, is the top name in the US.

Obviously there a few differences, but overall, it is all GNU/Linux - the newer the distro, the better it is.

As a relative newbie, please correct my ignorance! :-)

Unregistered
05-09-2002, 03:44 PM
plunge into the world of slackware... and prepare yourself for power you could not even imagine :P and yes there is a big difference between rh and slackware...

Lynux-Penguin
05-09-2002, 06:24 PM
LOL!!!
Slackware, funny!
Slackware was once a security nightmare.
I still think building your own linux is the best, for newbies RedHat because it is so simple.

itld
05-09-2002, 08:25 PM
howdy,
i also started with mandrake and went to RH. coming from the unix world in the early 80's i find any version of Linux a real treat.
speaking of slakeware, i hear alot about it but so far it all seems to be a lot of talk. can someone explain to me why i would take off my red hat ( that's a joke son) and become a slaker.

M.R.

Lynux-Penguin
05-09-2002, 10:40 PM
you wouldn't
RedHat (opinion) is far better than slackware
Slackware has a lot of comotion because the users of it are strong supporters almost like nationalism to their OS
I am not a strong supporter of anything except RedHat Linux (GREAT SERVER!!!)
and my own Distro Lynux

but I have a lot of pride for Linux and I appreciate slackware for what it has contributed to the Open Source Community.

Deckard
05-10-2002, 05:13 AM
Red Hat is the least secure distro "out of the box". It can, of course, be secured with some quality time in /etc/inetd.conf.

Red Hat is good for beginners and for network/system administrators who want to spend a minimal amount of time setting up and maintaining the system. Red Hat accomplishes these things by adding tools to simplify things, such as setting up a sound card with 'setsound'. Red Hat does well in the US because of marketing, and their efforts to simplify Linux. Beginners like Lynux-Penguin are advised to stick with RH.

I like Slackware because it is a real "hands on" operating system. You can't really fake anything with Slack. You either know how to do something, or you're in for a great learning experience. There are few wimp-outs like 'setsound'; netconfig being the only exception I can think of at the moment. It is my experience that Slackware is a favorite among the technophiles and engineering types.

I have heard a lot of good things about SuSE. In fact, I don't recall ever hearing a bad thing about SuSE. I'll have to take it for a spin someday.

To answer your question, f0ul, favorite distro seems to be religion more than anything else :)

itld
05-10-2002, 07:14 AM
howdy,
GUI's. config tools and all of the fluffy stuff aside, if a person wants to learn an OS especialy Linux it is very easy to find truck loads of doc on line.
my reason for going to Linux was a total lack of stability in the last version of windoze i used (winME).
i have found the kernel installed with this distro of RH to be SLIGHTLY more stable than ME. so for me i look for stability in a distro.

M.R.

starX
05-10-2002, 04:08 PM
Again, you guys seem to be overlooking the joy and miracle that is BSD. Of course for all you slackware folks looking for a true "hands on" experience, that's all just so much hot air until you give solaris a shot :)

Oops, but there I go again, drawing true Unix into this discussion on linuxes. Well, if you really must insist on a linux OS, I stand by RedHat... and tomsrtbt.

starX
www.axisoftime.com

f0ul
05-10-2002, 04:25 PM
I have a geeky friend who swears by BSD and has left me confused again - the only difference i could see with this was that BSD is designed for SCSI based Intel class CPU systems - maybe a very simplistic description, but seems to cover the basics!

The other point I noticed that the more user friendly a distro is, the less people rate it - is this the techie way of being macho?

surely if a distro has all the software you need, and all that software works well together, then its a good package?

Deckard
05-10-2002, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by f0ul
The other point I noticed that the more user friendly a distro is, the less people rate it - is this the techie way of being macho?I think you might be right on that, although I have never thought of it that way. I have always considered it a 'quest for knowledge'.

Originally posted by f0ul
surely if a distro has all the software you need, and all that software works well together, then its a good package? I have to agree. 'Good' is a relative term, so if it is good for you then it is 'good'.

itld
05-10-2002, 04:56 PM
howdy,
BRAVO fOul!!!!
youve hit it right on the head.
one of the linux users groups that i deal with is completely full of folks that "know everything" and are disgusted by fng's that ask piles of newbies questions.
if you dont mind i will use your phrase is this the techie way of being macho? at the next meeting.


M.R.

SilentStrike
05-10-2002, 07:23 PM
I am member of a LUG (geekness overwhelming :) )as well, but they don't seem to have elitist attutudes at all.

Lynux-Penguin
05-10-2002, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by Deckard
Red Hat is the least secure distro "out of the box". It can, of course, be secured with some quality time in /etc/inetd.conf.

Red Hat is good for beginners and for network/system administrators who want to spend a minimal amount of time setting up and maintaining the system. Red Hat accomplishes these things by adding tools to simplify things, such as setting up a sound card with 'setsound'. Red Hat does well in the US because of marketing, and their efforts to simplify Linux. Beginners like Lynux-Penguin are advised to stick with RH.

I like Slackware because it is a real "hands on" operating system. You can't really fake anything with Slack. You either know how to do something, or you're in for a great learning experience. There are few wimp-outs like 'setsound'; netconfig being the only exception I can think of at the moment. It is my experience that Slackware is a favorite among the technophiles and engineering types.

I have heard a lot of good things about SuSE. In fact, I don't recall ever hearing a bad thing about SuSE. I'll have to take it for a spin someday.

To answer your question, f0ul, favorite distro seems to be religion more than anything else :)

thank you for your opinion. However, I need to clarify something, I am not a beginer, i am far from beginer and I didn't say I used RedHat, I use Lynux (my own distro)

Deckard
05-11-2002, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by Lynux-Penguin
thank you for your opinion.You're welcome; be assured you will continue to get it. I find the difference between your opinion and mine, is that mine is based on knowledge and experience. Yours is merely contentious.

Lynux-Penguin
05-11-2002, 07:28 PM
well, putting the quarrel away, I thought your FIT program was well written and I would like to congradulate you on it.

itld
05-11-2002, 07:53 PM
howdy,
hey are you the Lynux-Penguin that i'm suposed to bash until you hand over a c note???

M.R. :D

Lynux-Penguin
05-12-2002, 10:36 AM
I don't know, am I?
I don't recall your name.

itld
05-12-2002, 10:55 AM
howdy,
this is a signature i saw

just wondering??

IF U SEE A PERSON CALLED LYNEX PENGUIN, GRAB HIM AND BASH HIM UNTIL HE GIVES A $100 BILL.

M.R.

Lynux-Penguin
05-12-2002, 12:19 PM
ROFL!
well I am practically broke, so you could be bashing me for a while

starX
05-13-2002, 06:59 AM
My experience with BSD is that it tends to be sleeker and more elegent than RedHat. It is also more tweakable (i.e. a buddy of mine got it to boot in 15 seconds).

As far as the chest thumping thing goes, I believe it is a little bit more than that. Techs I know have fanatical loyalties to their own distro just like the lesser tech inclined will sometimes have fanatical loyalties to Mac or Windows.

starX
www.axisoftime.com

Lynux-Penguin
05-15-2002, 05:17 PM
BSD was created at berkely for the sole purpose of a uni-computing-network of computers. They had computers all running simultaneous programs all connected and at the time previous editions of Unix were out but none were as network compliant as they needed so the author of BSD (can't remmeber name) created BSD for that one time purpose of executing Mathematical programs over a network. Turns out everyone likes it and it is one of the top selling Unix's out there, next to Linux
but each Unix has a different intended purpose though the direct purpose of Linux is undefined because the author wrote it as a hobby.

BSD - Berkely Software Distribution

itld
05-15-2002, 09:23 PM
howdy,
each Unix has a different intended purpose though the direct purpose of Linux is undefined because the author wrote it as a hobby.
No kidding, i had no idea i thought it was more like
As far as the chest thumping thing goes,
my guess a direct shot at the Bill man.

cool what a guy can learn from these "Irrelevant Questions "

thanks guys

M.R.

Lynux-Penguin
05-16-2002, 12:09 AM
No problem, you can easily learn more by consulting Linux.com google/linux or many of the other OpenSource/Linux sites.
Linuxfreak.org is my favorite. ZZINE is pretty good too but they are losing peoples.

Unregistered
05-17-2002, 08:15 AM
LP, you're a moron. you're fooling noone...

itld
05-17-2002, 10:13 AM
howdy,
fooled me, so chill the hell out.
:rolleyes: i put great trust and belief into post made by "Unregistered" i mean that guy is everywhere and has SOOOOO much credible information to offer :rolleyes:

M.R.

Lynux-Penguin
05-25-2002, 12:16 AM
thanks.

my question is...
"What am I trying to fool someone of?"
being a moron, lying about techniques?
please choose.
in fact, if you could show evidence I will personally congradulate you.