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    >> How much is 50€ in terms of US $ ??

    About $76. It's a good price, considering how expensive cable TV is. But Americans still have substantially cheaper options, going by what GanglyLamb said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mario F. View Post
    2 thousand kilometers of it?
    Yeah, why not?

    They could have also looped their own line so that the effective length was longer. But I'm not really sure how they do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GanglyLamb View Post
    To me and probably alot of people in Belgium, speed does not matter that much. What counts is the amount of traffic you are allowed/month.
    Poor you. But none of Estonian ISPs have a bandwidth limit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlyMaelstrom View Post
    Let's say a very good quality video is approximately 10MB for each minute of video.
    The Blue-Ray disk contains about 30-40G data for a film - say 120min video
    so we get 250M per min ~ 33Mbs

    I'd like to have 100Mbit Internet connection... 1Gbit is preffered

    So I fill ISP will need these TBit lines to provide this...
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    Argh, makes me feel very 'behind' living in Australia. A vast majority of Australia is barely on ADSL, IDSN is widely used... Not to mention I get a whole 12GB to spend over 30 days including upload :'(

    We're not just jibbed with speed, also with bandwidth. The government has promised to upgrade us to "world class broadband" (In fact he used that to get into office). However, I don't know what "world class is", nor where he's going to pull the few billion dollars it'll cost to install.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zacs7 View Post
    Argh, makes me feel very 'behind' living in Australia. A vast majority of Australia is barely on ADSL, IDSN is widely used... Not to mention I get a whole 12GB to spend over 30 days including upload :'(

    We're not just jibbed with speed, also with bandwidth. The government has promised to upgrade us to "world class broadband" (In fact he used that to get into office). However, I don't know what "world class is", nor where he's going to pull the few billion dollars it'll cost to install.
    That reply reminded me that somewhere in the world, someone is always worse off than you are. I thought that my connection was bad, i'm on a 4/1 Mbit line, which isn't much where i'm from...
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    Yes... In fact a few years ago when I was in high school we had 1Mbit IDSN for 1500+ students with a few hundred PCs, 8 servers, the works.

    It's okay, now they upgraded to 2Mb ADSL. They charge every student 10c/MB and they pay 7c.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matsp View Post
    They use twisted pairs and differential signalling, both of which reduce interference and reduces the chances of outside noice interfering with the signal.
    Yeah, they have to use some sort of shielding to get rid of interference.

    It's a shame about all these bandwidth limits. For this, it's about €39 per month (yes, it's a tad expensive compared to others, but it's the only choice out in the middle of nowhere), but bandwidth is free. I can download however much I want without a single complaint from the ISP. And who knows how much bandwidth I've spent?
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    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
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    Yeah, I just thought of that. Speeds of 100 mbps would probably not be possible without optic.
    Hmmm. So what limits the amount of wires they can bunt together then, I wonder? Hardware?
    That is very much possible, i get those speeds on my LAN everyday with normal cat5 connection wires and i am sure that there are no optical wires in the network.

    I envy all you people because i pay about $25 a month for a 128 kbps connection with no download cap which really sucks. Most of the plans offered by local isps have a cap of around 1GB per month with speeds upto 2 mbps :| just tell me if that makes any sense to you.
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    Doesn't make any sense. Does that make you happy?
    I get 8 Mbps/1Mbps w/ no cap. Which is pretty lousy compared to other offerings, but it's the best offered right here.
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    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
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    I get 8 Mbps/1Mbps w/ no cap. Which is pretty lousy compared to other offerings, but it's the best offered right here.
    And you call that lousy ? :P
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    Yes! Seeing as there's even 100 MBps (though you won't reach that, of course) for ~36€, among others. No cap of course.
    Or how about 24/1 MBps for €27?
    Like I said, crap.
    Quote Originally Posted by Adak View Post
    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elysia View Post
    Yes! Seeing as there's even 100 MBps (though you won't reach that, of course) for ~36€, among others. No cap of course.
    Or how about 24/1 MBps for €27?
    Like I said, crap.
    You are in Norway, amirite?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vart View Post
    The Blue-Ray disk contains about 30-40G data for a film - say 120min video
    so we get 250M per min ~ 33Mbs
    Source : http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=3338
    * I've removed posting the data here because it stretches the post to annoying widths.

    First, when I said "very good quality", I didn't mean Blu-Ray or HD-DVD. Personally, I'd call DVD quality "very good"... but who am I to judge? Regardless, the numbers I've posted (which are from what I understand pretty accurate) seem to show that a Blu-Ray movie can range anywhere from ~300MB/min to ~150MB/min, the average seemingly being closer to about 215MB/min. So... even multiplying all of my data by 21.5... you're still downloading a life-time worth (90 or so years) of video (Blu-Ray quality, mind you) in about 20 days. Even if you divided the download speed by 35... you're still downloading 90 or so years of Blu-Ray video in under 2 years. Think about downloading 45 minutes of Blu-Ray video in one minute... this goes well beyond streaming HD video. Which, I suppose is something that will be in high demand in the near future. This is a good step towards completely doing away with tangible disk media.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo1 View Post
    You are in Norway, amirite?
    Nope. Close, but no cookie

    Quote Originally Posted by SlyMaelstrom View Post
    Source : http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=3338
    * I've removed posting the data here because it stretches the post to annoying widths.

    First, when I said "very good quality", I didn't mean Blu-Ray or HD-DVD. Personally, I'd call DVD quality "very good"... but who am I to judge? Regardless, the numbers I've posted (which are from what I understand pretty accurate) seem to show that a Blu-Ray movie can range anywhere from ~300MB/min to ~150MB/min, the average seemingly being closer to about 215MB/min. So... even multiplying all of my data by 21.5... you're still downloading a life-time worth (90 or so years) of video (Blu-Ray quality, mind you) in about 20 days. Even if you divided the download speed by 35... you're still downloading 90 or so years of Blu-Ray video in under 2 years. Think about downloading 45 minutes of Blu-Ray video in one minute... this goes well beyond streaming HD video. Which, I suppose is something that will be in high demand in the near future. This is a good step towards completely doing away with tangible disk media.
    Of course, the movie is compressed more than it needs to be, usually. So you could lower it a slightly and get good compression, enough to stream, but still, we're a long way from streaming that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Adak View Post
    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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