Thread: Religion

> religion can a dangerous an misusable thing in the wrong hands, it is just his tool of maintaing his power.
this does not mean all religon is.

So, what if it was in those hands from the beginning?

>athiesm is the "Belief" that their is no god.
>is a deep explainaton required?

No, I don't think so... I was just wondering why it's such a problem to have atheism classified as a religion.

govt, don't get into hypotheticals it will get us no where.


>Yes, but you can make up your own mind about things. I'm willing to be proved wrong.

so is anyone, but the fact is God can neither be proven nor disproven.

Why? Isn't that kinda where we always are? What'll happen if this? What coulda happened if that?

Is your faith really that blind that you're not willing to challenge it a little? I don't think you can have true faith without asking "why?"... Otherwise, you're not much more than a robot.

but such a hypothetical like you question "what if it was in the wrong hand in the begining" is not mere speculation and is less provable than wether God existis or not

>Is your faith really that blind that you're not willing to challenge it a little?

CHANGE!! thats exactly what leads TO OSAMA BIN LADIN!

a little here a little there!! and what have you?

>I don't think you can have true faith without asking "why?"... Otherwise, you're not much more than a robot.

of course not, i asked why. and the answer is there is no other choice.

if there is any part to be questioned or that needs change then something is definatly wrong.

Um... I didn't say change, I said challenge.

> "what if it was in the wrong hand in the begining" is not mere speculation and is less provable than wether God existis or not

Yes, it is mere speculation. No, it's not less provable...

> of course not, i asked why. and the answer is there is no other choice.

If that's the answer you arrived at, good for you. Not everyone reached the same one you did.

it could take me hours to explain... but i'll try to simplify.

i looked at other religions(i am a Christian) and they almost all sprout from the "Devine Revelations" of a Man which in all is agreed on as an imperfect being, Christianity's Origin is Strictly Devine, and it doesn't change ever weekend, all the information in the bible is correct and know well before it should have been the morals are strict and don't get wishy washy here or there they are agreeing all the wa through. all the prophicies can be and most have been proven other tan the ones that havn't happened yet, most of the stories can be or have been proven, most other religions take from or follow from Christianity, take Roman Chatholics, or Islam, they came from Christian roots, it just makes sense, everything in it fits... there is so much more to it than this, but it would take days to explain.

and besides that, if you have ever truly believed in Christ there can be no doubt.

no-one - what do you mena when you say Christian? I notice you list Roman Catholics as a different group...

> it just makes sense, everything in it fits...

Boom! I'm converted! You've shown me the way! "It's right.... because it is!"... See DavidP's sig.

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Boom! I'm converted! You've shown me the way! "It's right....
because it is!"... See DavidP's sig.
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i dont get your meaning?

>no-one - what do you mena when you say Christian? I notice
you list Roman Catholics as a different group... <

Roman Catholics have a much different Bible than we, when i say Christian i mean they follow the unchanged Bible the Holy Bible

excuse me i see where that could cause a problem there are many different groups of Christianity :

Roman Catholic, Orthodox, Mormon, Quakers, ect...

though some of these such as the mormons and quakers consider themselves seperate.

sorry for the misunderstanding.

> excuse me i see where that could cause a problem there are many different groups of Christianity

That's what I meant.

> i dont get your meaning?

DP's sig says (among other things): "Circular logic works because it does." You're explanation for why the Bible's right was because it is.

**** that, swearing ****ing rocks the **** out of not swearing. Not swearing is proof that you fear some ****ty made up bull**** by a load of monks who can't **** because they spend their ****ing entire ****ing lives ****ing writing stupid ****ing books about not ****ing swearing because, ****, it's just ****ing wrong. I don't believe in swearing because there are ****ing better words than ****, ****, and ****. There are ****ing ****-brilliant words like "idiot", "dickhead" and "tosser". ****, if I ever ****ing swore I'd probably be so ****ing ........ed off with my pathetic ****ing life, I'd slit my ****ing wrists although it's not as if I'd ****ing condem other people who ****ing swear, that's their own mother****ing piece of **** problem. They can ****ing go to hell for I care, if they are such careless ****heads that they swear endlessly like ****ing drones to stupid ****ing bands like limp mother****ing biskit who sing a load of ****ing **** that doesn't really ****ing make any mother****ing sense at all. Those bands are ****ing ****holes of damnation and anyone who ****ing listens to that ****ing filth is ****ing deserving of all the **** they get shoved up their ****hole.

Originally posted by gnu-ehacks
Ken, what do you mean when you say these swear words? Is it still wholesome? Do other people know what you mean when you say the words?

Actually, they are more or less wholesome. I don't WHY I say damn so much, but it's grown more or less used as much as "at" or "on" or what-have-you. Everyone seems to know what I mean...and if they don't I can always explain. If I tell someone to f-off it's sort of like a strong "go away". On the contrast of what davidp says about curse words, I just think it's become adapted by society to show different things which weren't exactly the meaning way back when. So if you think about the words back in the 1950's I can see how it may be grotesque...but now it's just...slang . I only really use it with friends, though. I might say damn a few times around my parents...I don't really keep track.