At the moment they drew nazi symbols on 2 Estonian monuments, burned Estonian flags and they are still attacking Estonians. Riot police is doing their best.
Some comments from youtube (censored):
They've always been free. They have never been occupied in the whole history of Russia. Why do they make up these stories?Originally Posted by NewsPortal-comment
Last edited by maxorator; 04-28-2007 at 02:45 AM.
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this is terrible news, i really hope your family and yourself turn out alright.
I hope too...
We had a country in 13th century already. We've always been one separate nation - nothing even near to russians. And WTF are they talking about? "Without taking their indepence off" - hundred thousands of soldiers, many Estonians killed and then 100% controlled by Russia, what indepence can we talk about it here?
They keep comparing Estonia to nazis...
http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thre...3800#paginator
They are now demolishing in other cities too... Now tens of schools, large department stores and much more is destroyed. Plus one Estonian monument was put on fire.
Luckily European Union supports us...
Last edited by maxorator; 04-28-2007 at 02:45 AM.
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Terrible news, indeed. You are in our thoughts, and I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say I wish you and your family the best. Please keep us updated, and yourself safe.
There is a difference between tedious and difficult.
Don't they have swat teams?
Can you own guns in Estonia?
Trinity: "Neo... nobody has ever done this before."
Neo: "That's why it's going to work."
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Estonia is enforcing a "gun control" policy, but they aren't banned yet.
In Estonia for using a gun a license is needed.
The Defence League also (a part of Estonian defence forces) also had to help, because there weren't enough riot policemen...
Now it has calmed down, almost a thousand people are arrested, about hundred injured. There were about 15 injured policemen, because they moved in large groups.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6598269.stm
That picture there is of the statue in its new location.
We don't hate the monument. It was moved for the safety of Estonians:
This is what I expect from all Russians:
Last edited by maxorator; 04-28-2007 at 02:44 AM.
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Yeah, sure. Just like Dutch, French, Danish, Czech and Norwegian SS divisions. All Hitler's allies. All on his side. Right ? Jeez, in '44 the Waffen-SS divisions would have taken a one-legged jewish communist from the Philipines if he'd volunteered. From an estonian perspective, the enemy of my enemy is my friend and that would probably have been the Nazis, but I don't think that Adolf himself would have considered anything east of Prussia worth being an "ally". He was a frothing madman, he had slaves, not allies.Estonians [...] were allies of Hitler. Formed few SS divisions from estonians. Fought on Hitler side.
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She was so Blonde, she spent 20 minutes looking at the orange juice can because it said "Concentrate."
When in doubt, read the FAQ.
Then ask a smart question.
Luxembourg was never a great defensive force against the german invasion and even if our entire country was invaded in no less than a few hours, I would hate to hear from foreigners that Luxembourg was an ally to nazi-Germany. There is a difference between having no other choice but to contribute and voluntarily agree to help.
Actually they call us fascists only because we are moving their antifascism (communism monument for us) monument to a safer place for Estonians. Anticommunist means fascist for Russians. There's very little information about Estonians actually fighting on nazi side.
Last edited by maxorator; 04-28-2007 at 08:52 AM.
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The situation in Tallinn is now under control. Instead they are now planning to burn some other cities with molotov coctails - molotov coctails are handed out by some russians.
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EU, Poland, Latvia, Finland and Lithuania support us. That means noone else than Russia accuses Estonia of moving that monument to a cemetary, where it is not dangerous for the local Estonians.
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Lately, Putin seems to be about as Gung-ho as Bush. Personally, all I see in Putin is KGB and his polices seem to be all about suppressing any growth of democracy in Russia. Government opposition is silenced, free enterprises are seized and they (meaning Russia) recklessly supply high technology to dangeorus nations such as Iran and Korea. I think they do the later, just to cause the U.S. trouble, in spite of the potential danger that the policy may come back and bite them in the ass as well.
Latest article seems to imply the things have settled down with regards to the statue uproar, hopefully it'll stay that way for you, maxorator.
I see the first statement as about 175 degrees out of phase.
For the second, I enjoyed this recent related article.
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