Thread: Moral dillema

  1. #16
    'AlHamdulillah
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Posts
    790
    Well, it seems like it would be against the DMCA.
    this is a pretty good point actually; however, that presumes that there is some kind of encryption/copyright protection that you must bypass.
    there used to be something here, but not anymore

  2. #17
    ¡Amo fútbol!
    Join Date
    Dec 2001
    Posts
    2,138
    Lurker, although it would make since logically, the DMCA doesn't follow logic. Even if you own a cd of encrypted music/video/whatever, you can not copy the data (which resulted in the bankruptcy of 321 Studios).

  3. #18
    Redundantly Redundant RoD's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Missouri
    Posts
    6,331
    free service wont last more than 2-3 days if your lucky any more, so its not worth it. Fines for that are up to about 550.00 american.

    Its not like a few years back, when i used to do this for myself and friends. That could go for months and they'd shrug it off, but with advancing technologies and such they arent taking it. You can find a world of information on why this would be a bad decision on the network.

    mobile.box.sk

  4. #19
    Registered User VirtualAce's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2001
    Posts
    9,607
    Also just because it is my phone and just like all these computer games are mine,....does not mean I have the right to view the source code, alter it, hack it, or change it to suit my needs. Clearly a violation of ethical programming practices IMO.

  5. #20
    C++ Witch laserlight's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Singapore
    Posts
    28,413
    just because it is my phone and just like all these computer games are mine,....does not mean I have the right to view the source code, alter it, hack it, or change it to suit my needs. Clearly a violation of ethical programming practices
    ... unless the license under which the software is released permits such actions.

    Though I think that just viewing source code probably isnt unethical, even if the license prohibits it, looking it from the perspective that the reason for trying to prohibit viewing of source code is in an attempt to deter people from altering source code.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bjarne Stroustrup (2000-10-14)
    I get maybe two dozen requests for help with some sort of programming or design problem every day. Most have more sense than to send me hundreds of lines of code. If they do, I ask them to find the smallest example that exhibits the problem and send me that. Mostly, they then find the error themselves. "Finding the smallest program that demonstrates the error" is a powerful debugging tool.
    Look up a C++ Reference and learn How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

  6. #21
    & the hat of GPL slaying Thantos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2001
    Posts
    5,681
    Here is the thing: even if everyone else thinks its ok, if you feel its wrong then don't do it.

  7. #22
    In The Light
    Join Date
    Oct 2001
    Posts
    598
    Howdy,
    Good Job Dude, More people should take the moral high road.

    M.R.
    I don't like you very much. Please post a lot less.
    Cheez
    *and then*
    No, I know you were joking. My point still stands.

  8. #23
    Toaster Zach L.'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2001
    Posts
    2,686
    Regardless of whether it was legal or not, good job on doing what you thought was right, rather than what you thought would be convenient.

  9. #24
    Just one more wrong move. -KEN-'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2001
    Posts
    3,227
    Quote Originally Posted by itld
    Howdy,
    Good Job Dude, More people should take the moral high road.

    M.R.

  10. #25
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Sep 2001
    Posts
    4,912
    I too admire the trouble you're going to to do the right thing, but having read that entire post, is it not just easier to buy a new phone? But to answer your question: personally, I don't think there's anything ethically wrong with what you're doing, but as laserlight pointed out, the license agreements may prevent you, thus making it unethical. But I think if they sue you, this thread should be used as evidence - it definately shows your inentions.

  11. #26
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Posts
    8
    yea there prolly is code altering in the contract, but they wont know if you view the code, copy it, paste it in the computer and find out what does what.

  12. #27
    Radar Detector....enough said. Though lightsaber would be better. (yes I a mserious about that)

  13. #28
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Sep 2001
    Posts
    4,912
    That's why the subject is MORAL dilemma. They'll probably never find out even if he DOES alter the code. Radar detectors are fun though...

  14. #29
    Registered User VirtualAce's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2001
    Posts
    9,607
    But character, to me, is not about what you do when others are around...its what you do when no one is looking. Perhaps I'm wrong.


    So even if they didn't find out....I just didn't think I could feel good about myself hacking into a stupid cell phone simply to get a code out....that I put in there....and simply forgot like a moron.

  15. #30
    In The Light
    Join Date
    Oct 2001
    Posts
    598
    Howdy,
    Having moral issues -KEN-???

    M.R.
    I don't like you very much. Please post a lot less.
    Cheez
    *and then*
    No, I know you were joking. My point still stands.

Popular pages Recent additions subscribe to a feed

Similar Threads

  1. Challenging GotW 66's moral
    By George2 in forum C++ Programming
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 12-27-2007, 08:24 AM
  2. Cool'n'Quiet Dillema
    By cerin in forum Tech Board
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 11-12-2006, 06:20 AM
  3. The Moral Delima
    By Jeremy G in forum A Brief History of Cprogramming.com
    Replies: 45
    Last Post: 04-18-2005, 07:32 PM
  4. Dillema: VC++6 or VC# for game developing
    By Unregistered in forum C++ Programming
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 05-03-2002, 06:51 AM