Thread: Saddam's Trial

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    > Michael Moore's film can hardly be called a documentary, as it still filled with alot of the BS arguments and lack of factual arguments

    Proof please.

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    I am not going to vote for Bush, and I don't especially like Moore, but he raises a lot of issues in his movie that you can't just toss aside as saying they are all bs.

    Quote Originally Posted by EvBladeRunnervE
    I am against the Iraq war, but fully support Bush getting another term solely because that will inspire freedom fighters world wide ....
    I honestly cannot even believe you are saying that. You are like 16 years old living in a demilitarized zone somewhere in the United States...I highly doubt your opinions are very sophisticated, especially for being so radical.
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    from some of the things Saddam said, I think it would also be a great time to put Bush on trial. There are numerous reasons to expect Bush of being a war criminal, and if he has done nothing wrong then he should be ok with one. I think they should just make a big happy case involving several defendants, such as those that were torturing prisoners at abu ghraib and on the battle field , and put it in front of the Iraqi courts.
    i agree completly with that...especially the part about the prison abu ghraib. WTF happened to we are here to save u from this place. SO instead of that we through them in a prison and beat the I am sillyI am sillyI am sillyI am silly of them also making them perform sexual acts, I mean come on kind of sick I am sillyI am sillyI am sillyI am sillyer would do that I am sillyI am sillyI am sillyI am silly.(and i know this is supposed to be about saddams trial but u cant help not ignoring this subject).

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    > Michael Moore's film can hardly be called a documentary, as it still filled with alot of the BS arguments and lack of factual arguments

    Proof please.
    lemme get back to you on that, need to sort through my numerous books on the topic of Bush-Saudi connections,etc.

    EDIT: this op-ed piece says it better than I can:

    http://slate.msn.com/id/2102723/

    I hate Bush(as a person) just as much as some of you do, but people need to quit attemping to make their personal vendettas somehow more "relevant" but including blatant lies and interpretations.

    I honestly cannot even believe you are saying that. You are like 16 years old living in a demilitarized zone somewhere in the United States...I highly doubt your opinions are very sophisticated, especially for being so radical.
    my ideas are hardly radical. I do not support Al-qaida; however, I do support the notion that the US has been infringing upon the life of countless people world wide(Iraq, Afghanistan, Nicuragua, etc.) in the name of fighting "evil", and that it needs to be put back in its place.
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    What do you think we should've done? I'm not for the war in Iraq, but I don't agree with everything you said.

    I mean, granted, there are going to be issues in sending troops to other countries; the people there aren't going to be entirely happy about it. But if we hadn't gone into afghanistan, what would have happened?
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    But if we hadn't gone into afghanistan, what would have happened?
    Probably absolutely nothing.

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    What does going into Afghanistan have to do with Saddam's trial?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvBladeRunnervE

    EDIT: this op-ed piece says it better than I can:

    http://slate.msn.com/id/2102723/
    Yawn
    http://tinyurl.com/285s4
    edit: Stupid filter
    edit again: Look at the other pieces Hitchens has written for Slate. He's a hack.
    http://www.slate.com/?id=3944&cp=2073766
    "Ahmad and Me
    Defending Chalabi."
    "Covering the "Quagmire"
    Are war correspondents betting on failure in Iraq?"
    "Clarke's Progress
    Guess who used to believe in the Iraq/al-Qaida connection?"

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    I wasnt saying that Moore was completely full of it, as the slate piece did; however, reading that link, I have sort of changed my mind on some of Moore's rhetoric.

    also, if you have been reading most of my political posts, you would understand that I am not a supporter of Bush, because he is destroying the US, but you would also know that I am pretty partial to those ideas myself.

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    >>Probably absolutely nothing.

    So you're saying that we haven't had any impact on Bin Laden's plans?

    >>What does going into Afghanistan have to do with Saddam's trial?

    I was responding to this:
    Quote Originally Posted by EvBladeRunnervE
    I do not support Al-qaida; however, I do support the notion that the US has been infringing upon the life of countless people world wide(Iraq, Afghanistan, Nicuragua, etc.) in the name of fighting "evil", and that it needs to be put back in its place
    "Think not but that I know these things; or think
    I know them not: not therefore am I short
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    So you're saying that we haven't had any impact on Bin Laden's plans?
    And what were his plans, I might ask? I not saying that we didn't hamper any grand terrorist plans he may have had, I'm just saying that he probably didn't have a massive reign of terror planned. I'm not saying we should have shrugged and let it go, but blowing up a bunch of camels for months on end isn't the most well thought out idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvBladeRunnervE
    also, if you have been reading most of my political posts, you would understand that I am not a supporter of Bush, because he is destroying the US, but you would also know that I am pretty partial to those ideas myself.
    I have been reading your posts, but your opinion on Bush doesn't make you sound any better when you use Hitchens as a source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zach L.
    And what were his plans, I might ask? I not saying that we didn't hamper any grand terrorist plans he may have had, I'm just saying that he probably didn't have a massive reign of terror planned. I'm not saying we should have shrugged and let it go, but blowing up a bunch of camels for months on end isn't the most well thought out idea.

    Yes, all mighty Zach, since it is you and only you who knows how and when to conduct war. We didn't just "blow up camels for months." Get a life.

    You had better start reading before you post anymore uninformed DRIBBLE.

    Here, I'll start you off...

    http://www.defenselink.mil/news/May2...4takurghar.pdf

    Did those SEALs, Rangers, and AF PJ's die killing camels? No. Again, get a life.
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    > You had better start reading before you post anymore uninformed DRIBBLE.

    You might think about picking up a dictionary before you post anymore uninformed DRIVEL.

    > Did those SEALs, Rangers, and AF PJ's die killing camels? No. Again, get a life.

    I think you missed the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Govtcheez
    > You had better start reading before you post anymore uninformed DRIBBLE.

    You might think about picking up a dictionary before you post anymore uninformed DRIVEL.

    > Did those SEALs, Rangers, and AF PJ's die killing camels? No. Again, get a life.

    I think you missed the point.

    Oh jesus, kill me now. I didn't spell a word right!

    govt, take your head out of your ass - YOU missed the point.
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