riding the last wave of C++

**whackaxe** · 04-08-2004

what? c++ is dying out? aww, looks like i arrived late to the party :P JAVA does have some major strengths though

just wondering. ive jsut been reading a java tutorial and it says you compile to .class file which is then run through an interpreter? if you ask me, thats sounds worse than VB runtimes. iat least with c++ you can just through out an ?exe and thats that

**Waldo2k2** · 04-08-2004

C++ isn't going anywhere,
I'd hate to see what some of you guys would do in a school without any programming classes. The computer classes here go over MS office and that's it. Not even web pages. So whether Java takes over as the next popular thing it doesn't matter as long as they're being taught SOMETHING.

**DavidP** · 04-08-2004

they should at least teach C# instead of Java. C# is so much more cool than Java ever will be.

**Waldo2k2** · 04-08-2004

i never knew you were the antichrist....

**gcn_zelda** · 04-08-2004

Wouldn't you like to know.

Uh... yes.

I'm quite fond of C++ mostly because of this message board. You need help, somebody will help you.

And I'd have to say that Visual Basic is more popular than C++ among Windows users.

**Thantos** · 04-08-2004

And I'd have to say that Visual Basic is more popular than C++ among Windows users.

We like to refer to those people as "simpletons"

**-KEN-** · 04-08-2004

Originally Posted by Prelude

Wouldn't you like to know.

Tease

>>i just wrote a dissertation to the AP Board about why C++ should be teached in place of Java to beginning programmers.<<

Well, if this "dissertation" includes the word "teached", then I don't think they'll take it very seriously

**Speedy5** · 04-08-2004

I took APCS last year for C++ and this year I'm taking it again for Java. The C++ one was way more involved. They had you actually make trees and linked lists and whatnot. This year with Java you get to use the standard classes for linked lists and trees and people don't even get to learn how to make them. I remember all the fun in C++ was balancing trees and figuring out pointers. In Java its just "use the class, make it work." Its pathetic.

They still teach C++ here at my school. Its taught as an honors course. In fact, our high school has a lot of computer science classes.

**kermit** · 04-08-2004

Wasn't Pascal a favourite language for teaching purposes years ago? Its not as popular now, from what I understand. Like it was said - popularity comes and goes.

There will always be people out there who like to keep the old languages going. I think its cool to get into stuff that is not so mainstream. I love the look of horror some people give when I mention that I have been dabbling with fortran using g77.

**DavidP** · 04-08-2004

I don't really know Pascal very well, but I have seen Pascal code, and have talked to Pascal people, and can very easily understand what is going on in Pascal code, and indeed it IS a very good teaching language.

**RoD** · 04-08-2004

my teach swore pascal was the best language out there, but she said shorthand operators were wrong and arent really C++.....she also made us use void main, part of the reason i failed alot cuz i refused to use void main.

**VirtualAce** · 04-09-2004

The switch to Java is a mistake. Cross platform... blah blah blah. Stuff it. Java runs like crap and is slower than the seven year itch.
I wish the garbage collector would collect the language and throw it in the trash.

**laserlight** · 04-09-2004

you have a fascinating "teacher", RoD

The switch to Java is a mistake. Cross platform... blah blah blah. Stuff it. Java runs like crap and is slower than the seven year itch.

I havent learnt Java (though I may have to in university), but wasnt there some way to get the code to be compiled (or something to that effect) instead of always running through an interpreter?

**Dante Shamest** · 04-09-2004

I havent learnt Java (though I may have to in university),

If you're planning to take Computer Science in NUS, you inevitably will.

but wasnt there some way to get the code to be compiled (or something to that effect) instead of always running through an interpreter?

Its possible, using GCJ.

**Jez** · 04-09-2004

I think the next "new" language could be something like SETL (If anyone can figure out how to write a decent compiler for it). Do a search.

my teach swore pascal was the best language out there, but she said shorthand operators were wrong and arent really C++.....she also made us use void main, part of the reason i failed alot cuz i refused to use void main.

Reminds me of my science teacher.

teacher "Name some elements"
me "Iron"
teacher "No, thats not an element"
me "but it's on the periodic table"
teacher "but most people don't think of it as an element"

I should point out that he also taught PE and wore a medallion.