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I always wonder why we don't bring back the guillotine for executions in the US. I mean injection costs a pretty penny and I would think it is a lot more cruel mentally on the person. Beheadings are quick, should cause instant shock so would be mostly painless, and its cheap as heck
injection costs nothing compared to the legal process (appeals and junk), and can total into the millions of dollars if it drags on for years, and you guessed it, it's tax payer's $.
So why not try to cut costs when possible
how? by not going through the appeal's process? Maybe with saddam we could do that, and maybe a few other open and shut cases such as with mcveigh, but appeals are necessary if you're ass is put on trial, you're condemned to be executed, and you didn't do it...even with the appeals process innocent people get executed (and proved innocent later when the real murderers come forward and dna evidence comes into play)
a good reason to not have the death penalty...innocent people get executed
it certainly is probably one of the worst things that can happen to you (getting executed for something you did not do). On the other hand, people that haven't had a family member killed are out of place saying the death penalty is bad...the death penalty IS revenge, and it's all the family members will get...that's basically the only reason why Im not completely against it
So by getting revenge against the killer by killing him, is the family any better than the murderer?
you're completely missing the point dude...the point is you wouldn't be arguing against the death penalty if I kidnapped, raped, and dismembered your younger sister and then dumped her body parts on your front lawn...
I still wouldn't go for the death penalty... he's right that having the death penalty just says "we say it's wrong to kill, so because you kill, we can kill too..." it goes against the whole "two wrongs don't make a right" ideal everybody's taught as a kid. I would want life in jail for you, but having you dead wouldn't make me feel any better... after the "we're happy we got revenge" feeling is over, you won't feel any better that your sister is dead... and his family will have to deal with the loss too... is that fair that you drag that person's family into it?Originally posted by Silvercord
you're completely missing the point dude...the point is you wouldn't be arguing against the death penalty if I kidnapped, raped, and dismembered your younger sister and then dumped her body parts on your front lawn...
idk... for some reason i found this one really funnyOriginally posted by Liger86
24. Suicide bomb him
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Actually you can still have jails under that rational. Jails would serve the purpose of protecting society from people whose behavior threaten it. Although that rational would eliminate alot of crimes that would normally get one jail time.Under this rationale you can eliminate jailing. You might as well not have a legal system.
Ive thought long and hard about that and I think I could.you're completely missing the point dude...the point is you wouldn't be arguing against the death penalty if I kidnapped, raped, and dismembered your younger sister and then dumped her body parts on your front lawn...
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This reminds me of a star trek episode...Where they go to a planet where the only punishment for a crime is death. Seemed to work well too (it was pretty much paradise, until poor wesley stepped on the flowers)
But I think that we "should not be so quick to deal out death and judgement..." In my opinion, it would be just as good revenge if you don't kill them but make them live in jail until they eventually die anyway...Provided jail ruins the rest of their life anyway. In that case, if someone was innocent, they might at least be able to get their life back...
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No, buy cutting the cost of actually offing them. Granted the savings would be that much but I think its a lot humane then spending 30 some minutes strapping someone to a table, sticking them with needles, and then finally getting on with it.how? by not going through the appeal's process?
nah, just throw him to Mars (first human guinea pig / test subject).
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Waste of money.Originally posted by Wraith_Master
nah, just throw him to Mars (first human guinea pig / test subject).
But as I said in my previous post (you may recall) - "deepfry him on low", so it is slow and painfull!
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