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    brain vs. computer (brain wins hands down)

    Interesting article on memory capacity of the human brain versus computers: http://news.independent.co.uk/world/...p?story=443276

    While even the biggest computer has a capacity of around 10,000,000,000,000 bytes (10 to the power of 12), the human brain has a colossal 10 followed by 8,432 noughts, say the scientists who made the calculations in the journal Brain and Mind.
    Wow, 10^12 versus 10^8432 is quite the gap.
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    Brain will always win!


    edit: Now that I saw the article, I know you weren't talking about me.
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    Yipes, that is a tad bit of a difference huh? But how about the people I know who run slower than a 486?

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    Its very interesting this-good topic!

    edit! oh stupid slow site today! See below
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    Brilliant subject! The brain is indeed fascinating. Problem with all that memory is we cant access it all, except maybe under hypnosis.

    Its true we remember everything, but at least computers dont remember SOME things with a lower priority than others (like the brain does).

    Think about it-you may remember your first day at school, (hehe I STILL do)., but god knows what I did the following Saturday

    Now, my PC could tell me that in a flash (Well, if it knew!)
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    but a computer can do what a human wants it to do, but a brain does what it wants and the human follows... we have alot less control over our brains than we have over comps...
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    I'm not sure a brain does what it "wants" to do. It is on autopilot so to speak, though.

    I read an interesting article a few months back. A rather pragmatic series of tests seemed to indicate that humans have roughly 4 MB of short term memory.
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    my tech teacher told me once that a computer with the processing size of the average brain would have to be the size of a football field to even compair to it.
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    Really depends on the task. Computers are much better suited for some tasks (such as number crunching) because their structure is different from that of the human brain. Of course, it'd be a lot easier to argue this if the brain was more fully understood... anyways... yeah, I'd be surprised if even a football-field sized computer could successfully process in the same way that a brain does.

    I was walking to class ealier today (a math class), and the campus was rather crowded. It crossed my mind that either the path-finding algorithm my brain was using was rather sophisticated (so that I roughly minimized my route of travel while not colliding with anyone), or it was a brute force algorithm that was being run many a time at very high speed.
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    The computer only mimics what we know. There isn't any intelligence in a computer. It has knowledge but it needs programming to have the ability to learn like the human brain.
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    True. But how do you define intelligence in a human. A human learns from its environment, but a computer (arguably) learns when you hit the compiler button, so this would be its "environment".
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    But how does it get that enviroment? The computer is based off of technology we create. Our human brain is so advanced we aren't even sure how it completely works. The study of the brain is still in the baby stages.
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    I don't deny that the brain is very much more sophisticated than computers. I am just saying that there is at least some analogue to intelligence.
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    Originally posted by Zach L.
    I was walking to class ealier today (a math class), and the campus was rather crowded. It crossed my mind that either the path-finding algorithm my brain was using was rather sophisticated (so that I roughly minimized my route of travel while not colliding with anyone), or it was a brute force algorithm that was being run many a time at very high speed.
    I would say the brain takes things as they come, but has a destination and knows the quickest route is a straight line, or follows a path... if you really pay attention, most of the time you're not taking the fastest route... your following the flow of traffic or just kinda walking... you don't always round the corner on the inside...
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