Cool it now or it's gone - OKAY.
Cool it now or it's gone - OKAY.
Wave upon wave of demented avengers march cheerfully out of obscurity unto the dream.
Holy unreasonable lunacy batman! How are you people arguing with me? I'm not even making any points. Do you even see what you're responding to? My God! You might as well have that kind of reaction to something I post in the C++ forum!Originally posted by Fountain
MMM our boys were the bravest. Imagine going to office and them telling you you are going to the russian front (or africa) whereever! Very few did not give their lives for a world war! My folks did! Do you think you would join up tomo if you thought you would die? Are you brave? I, I doubt it!
Stuff WW11, the thread is about 9/11, and lets leave it that way. IT has sod all to do with ww11. THANK YOU!
FYB- Class A can be inherited from Class B because it closely resembles that type.
Fountain - f*** you FYB. America is the great satan. How dare you make that assertion!
FYB- What? I was talking about programming.
Brian- but you ignore the fact that America is after oil, you mindless American.
"You are stupid! You are stupid! Oh, and don't forget, you are STUPID!" - Dexter
...Right.Originally posted by FillYourBrain
Holy unreasonable lunacy batman! How are you people arguing with me? I'm not even making any points. Do you even see what you're responding to? My God! You might as well have that kind of reaction to something I post in the C++ forum!
FYB- Class A can be inherited from Class B because it closely resembles that type.
Fountain - f*** you FYB. America is the great satan. How dare you make that assertion!
FYB- What? I was talking about programming.
Brian- but you ignore the fact that America is after oil, you mindless American.
Anyway. My heart goes out to those who died on September the 11th and those who melted but were forgotten last month many years ago.
>>Go $$$$ yourself.<<
Calm down, you don't want to do something rash that would bring down shame and guilt upon your great-great grandchildren do you?
holy ape $$$$ we're not as invincible as I used to thinkOur initial reactions to 9-11 two years ago
I mean seriously if these poor rice eating towel heads can kill 3,000 people so easily...then...pardon my french but wtf
IMO (heh I used internet slang) we shouldn't argue on this thread. 9-11 was a tradjety no matter what anyone says. We should just pray or do whatever for the people lost and greatly damaged due to the cowardly terroristic attacks.
"When I die I want to pass peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather did, not screaming and yelling like the passengers in his car."
Man, I was stupid 2 years ago.
(enter the "Hurr, don't you mean STUPIDER????" posts)
I remember walking into my 0 hour Math class a little before 7am PT and watching as the attacks had just been under way. It was the weirdest feeling in the world seeing that happen. Sadly, I remember a guy standing on an upper level and waving his shirt around for help, then (*gasp*) he jumped out of the window. A very upsetting day, indeed.
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Relating that day to any part of WWII is nonsense. WWII was a war (hence the second W) and on September 11th, 2001 in the USA there were 3 acts of terrorism; a very distinct difference.
PS - Being insultive when debating only worsens your credibility, remember that.
It happened on prime time TV here (8pm).
Lets also remember the thousands who died 11 Sept 1973. When the democratically elected government of Chile was overthrown by General Pinochet.
Lets hope that the war on Terror will be over soon. So our troops in Afghanistan and Iraq will get home safe.
Lets hope for some sanity in negotiations in the West Bank.
Unfortunately I think we are yet to acknowledge our responsibilities in creating these situations and ultimately these terrorists.
Until we do there will be no true peace in the world.
>>So if Osama had declared war first, what happened on september 11th would be A-OK in your books, govt?
Actually Osama did declare war on the US and its allies years before S11.
The US press did not report these kinds of things then.
Clinton also attacked him with cruise missiles and sent Pakistani assassins after him, so the war was sort of under way already.
Just because you did not see it on CNN does not mean it was not happening.
ie Look up where Pinochet got his arms from. The documents were released in 1999.
"Man alone suffers so excruciatingly in the world that he was compelled to invent laughter."
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Actually, about 99% of Germans any age will freely admit it was totally wrong and a horrific thing that should never happen again. There even exist laws which make lying about what happened back then a punishable offense. As is showing a swastika or SS runes.Originally posted by Fountain
AND if you ask anybody in GERMANY the same question (if they are 25+) they will FREELY ADMIT they were wrong. Many germans want to disacotiate themselves from the atrocities.
Give pppl a break!
Am I ashamed ? No. Why should I, I did nothing wrong. Nor did my parents. Nor my grandparents who were too young to vote back then... but old enough to be sent to the russian front to risk their lives five years later. My Grandgrandparents ? They probably were involved one way or another. Maybe by just staying silent. "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing". I didn't even know their names, so no, I'm not ashamed personally.
( I was thinking about something connected to this on my way to work, I think I'll just start another thread about it. )
I do think that bombing Nagasaki and Hiroshima was a valid means of ending a war that was already decided. Same goes for Dresden and Hamburg. If you start a fist fight and don't surrender when your opponent draws a knife... you are plain stupid. They had it comming. Which doesn't mean they weren't victims. Or shouldn't be mourned. But they played with fire and got burned.
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9/11 happened at about 15:00 here. I remember a colleague telling me a plane had crashed. When I asked if he made that up, he said a second one had crashed, too. And a third one. By then I was sure he made it up because he knew my flight to Washington was scheduled for the following thursday. It wasn't until I read the first news site, or rather non-news sites quoting them for the lack of available news-sites that I believed him.
hth
-nv
She was so Blonde, she spent 20 minutes looking at the orange juice can because it said "Concentrate."
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Then ask a smart question.
nvoigt, I'd have to agree with you almost 100% on the atomic bombings. Yes it was a very controversial decision and I do mourn those who died in the attack. But it was a quick and effective way to end a war that we did not start, and didn't cost the lives of hundreds of thousand american AND japanese soldiers that would have died if we had done a traditional invasion. I've spent 6 months in Japan and not once did I meet a Japanese person who blamed American in any way. Those in the world who are quick to judge America tend to be very short on alternatives the americans could have done that would have ended the war yet not cost as many lives.
I was in Thailand when 9/11 happened. My girlfriend and I were in an internet cafe when I got an breaking news email from cnn saying a plane had crashed into the world trade center, but no other details. I just assumed it was a small two person airplane and didn't think much of it. A few minutes later a second email came up talking about the second plane. I thought that was a little odd so tried to log onto cnn.com but it was overloaded with requests so I couldn't get on. Ditto for every other news site. I told my girlfriend we should leave since something was happening and as we were paying the cashier behind the booth was watching TV asked if we were american, and when we told him yes he told us what was going on. We hurried back to our hotel scared since my girlfriends father worked right next door the towers. LONG night for us trying to find out if he was alright, which he was thankfully.
Same with me. One of my roommates has an e-mail saved where I said it wasn't going to be a big deal.Originally posted by PJYelton
I just assumed it was a small two person airplane and didn't think much of it.
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first thing I heard was a certain radio guy freaking out about fire and smoke pouring out of the tower. The airplane talk came later in that. This broadcast was based in NY where the towers could be seen from the window. I got to work in time to see the second plane hit and both towers fall. Very unusual day to say the least.
"You are stupid! You are stupid! Oh, and don't forget, you are STUPID!" - Dexter
I got told off at school because my phone beeped when my sister had SMSed me the news.
Open thread? Wow.
Just one point to those who think nukeing Japan was cool.
What? Oh the point? The point is nobody (especially US) could guarantee that the fission would actually cease after it did its job. You see, I am not actually mythering about WHO got killed (as all sides lost lives), but we could easily have lost THE WORLD!!
Yes I know nowadays we know better physics, but imagine it in WW11 days! The bomb droppers (nameless
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