Would you consider Linux?

**FloatingPoint** · 08-10-2003

Originally posted by mart_man00
Why cant you just download it FloatingPoint?

I have access to this network here but they're using Win2000 to do the NAT works. After no more than 20 minutes of d/loading the ISO images, the server got reset. I've been trying for a few times, but always end up w/ the server being reset. Somebody told me that that's typical of having a Win2K do the 'masquerading' stuff.

**FloatingPoint** · 08-10-2003

Originally posted by blackrat364

Oh, and my video card works like crap with OpenGL. Tux Racer, a pretty simple game as far as 3d graphics go, ran at 2 or 3 frames per second, sometimes worse. I can play Morrowind smoothly.

If you can already play Morrowind at good frame rates, then most likely there's nuthing wrong w/ your vid. It could be that Tuxracer needed a lil bit of tweaking(?).

The command glxinfo should say something like direct rendering support is on, and to get the frame rate readings, try glxgears.

Hope all is ok there.

**codingmaster** · 08-10-2003

First to say, I totally agree with Brian

.

Jesus-again?

Yes....

You seriously cant hate something that has got itself into 95% of households...

NO, I CAN

what the hell were the alternatives?

Linux, BSD, Mac and others

Linux is hard to use

Don't talk, about stuff u don't know

because it is not as popular as windows

It's not as popular as windows, but it doesn't mean, that it's harder to use.
The most people think about the command line when they hear linux, but it's not true, there are lots of newbie distros out there, with very good working window managers, like KDE and Gnome.

But there are users, like me, who still prefer the command line

--oh and it is not actually as good as windows

That's absolutely not true. Look at:
http://www.mandrake.com
http://www.redhat.com
http://www.slackware.com
http://www.gentoo.org
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org

http://www.freebsd.org
http://www.openbsd.org
http://www.netbsd.org

-you forgot to add this bit.

I forgot nothing!!!

How come I have to write this every few weeks.

Damn, stop it.

Let the people who get the job DONE on time with Windows use it.

This thread is about considering Linux or not, and I wrote down, why it's good to use Linux. I don't say, that windows is the worst operating system. But people use windows and don't know about their policy and strategy on the computer market to kill all other companies. And you pay such a lot of money for Windows and there are still security bugs for months or years. Why not getting Linux or BSD, it's free and secure.

And if you have a bit more time for faffing around at home, by all means use Linux.

It's not your problem, what I do at home or else where and it doesn't matter, what I do in my free time.
So this is my opinion about Linux and don't tell everyone here crap, cause you don't like it or have some problems with computers, which run Linux or BSD.

**confuted** · 08-10-2003

Ignoring the last post and moving on...

The Gateway version of SB Live won't work with OSS at all (with digital speakers, at least, which is what I think mine are...they're nice and I don't want to change). Here's the email I got from them.

[email protected] wrote:

> The following request for technical support was received:
> Name: Matt Hansen
> Company: none
> Title: n/a
> Address: 6782 East Fouch Road
> City: Traverse City State: MI Zip: 49684
> Phone: 231.946.3294 Fax:
> Email: [email protected]
> Origin: 24.236.240.148.gha.mi.chartermi.net
> OSS Version: 2.4.21
> Workstation Model: Gateway 1.9 GHz (intel) 256 mb RAM
> OS Version: Mandrake 9.1
> Audio Hardware: Soundblaster Live! Value
> ================================================== ========================
> Problem description:
> I initially installed OSS using Redhat 8.0 on the same system. However, I could
> not get it to function correctly, and decided to install Mandrake 9.1 in hopes of
> getting better luck. After installation of Mandrake 9.1, I installed OSS. The
> installation went smoothly, with no errors, however, when performing the audio
> self test, no sound came out of the speakers. This is the same thing that
> happened with Redhat 8.1. I am using KDE. The drivers are installed correctly,
> but the sound does not function. Thank you for any help that you are able to
> offer.
> ================================================== ========================

Hi,

What kind of speakers are you using?. Please try to connect Analog
speakers to the Gateway SBLive version because digital speakers don't
correctly with with the Gateway's OEM version of SBLive. We know that
there are some differences between the standard SBLive! card you get
from Compusa/etc and the Gateway's SBLive - however gateway doesn't
respond to our queries.

best regards
Dev Mazumdar

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4Front Technologies
4035 Lafayette Place, Unit F, Culver City, CA 90232, USA.
Tel: (310) 202 8530 URL: www.opensound.com
Fax: (310) 202 0496 Email: [email protected]
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I've read several places that OpenGL runs incredibly slowly on "bad" video cards, which is what I have. It's a GeForce 2 MX - not exactly good, but it can handle Morrowind and such, probably because my processor is fast enough to help it out.

As for the suggestions for fixing tuxracer - exactly what I was talking about

I don't have to tweak anything in Windows from the command prompt - including Apache. I don't have anything against the command prompt/terminal, but I don't want to use it ALL the time to do EVERYTHING when I'm just trying to get something in the GUI to work.

**mart_man00** · 08-10-2003

blackrat364, digital speakers are buggy, but working. I think you might have to be brave and try the CVS. Justlinux had a guy talking about this a while ago(i was angry since i couldnt get sounds and this guy was going for perfection already), i think he did get it working.

By the way, are digital speakers that good? I havnt had a chance to check some out yet.

the whole opengl thing seems alittle weird under linux, not everything uses it. im sure there some people out there that can help you with it tho.

I know some on that couldnt het hardware acceleration working so he has his cpu doing the crunching, works well for him.

**confuted** · 08-10-2003

>>try the CVS

What is the CVS?

>>digital speakers
They're pretty cool

**mart_man00** · 08-10-2003

What is the CVS?

I guessing the emu10k1 one.

Like i said check out the other boards, they know this stuff.

**confuted** · 08-10-2003

lol, I've posted this on several boards. Nobody's managed to solve it

Including justlinux. Oh well, I guess it really doesn't matter much. It works with Windows, which I use most of the time anyway.

**Brian** · 08-10-2003

the command would be something along the lines of

modprobe emu10k1

on freebsd i think its
kldload sndemu10k1

(just look in the directory with the .ko's in it to find the real name)

**slaveofthenet** · 08-10-2003

I had the same problem with Tux Racer until I got a new graphic card driver. I'm using a geforce2MX, the default linux drivers are alright for general use, just not for opengl. I installed the driver from nvidia and now I'm able to run Tux Racer and Enemy Territory at a nice FPS. Also, installing the driver was pretty easy, just exit out of X, sh nvidia-installer-xxx, click ok a few times, then edit a few lines in XF86Config.

**LogicError** · 08-11-2003

No I wouldn't, I'm gonna stick with Windows.. 66.6% of the world use Windows operating systems, why bother even thinking about linux?

**Brian** · 08-11-2003

Originally posted by LogicError
No I wouldn't, I'm gonna stick with Windows.. 66.6% of the world use Windows operating systems, why bother even thinking about linux?

Firstly, it's more like 99.6%. But your logic is stupid. AOL is the world's most popular ISP. Does that mean we should use AOL?

**Govtcheez** · 08-11-2003

Because when you're trying to make money, it makes sense to be able to sell it to the largest group of people. Your AOL analogy fails in that sense.

**FillYourBrain** · 08-11-2003

right, AOL vs Mindspring vs Roadrunner vs Earthlink vs whatever doesn't make much difference except for reliability and such. None of them prevent you from using a given software package with it.

**FillYourBrain** · 08-11-2003

I think if you're willing to give up on using much of the popular software in favor of what is available in opensource then linux is a great way to go. I for one need to use what the masses use. Its a curse I guess. Much like the curse of the Cortes treasure plaguing the crew of the black pearl.