didn't we get rid of segregation?

**mart_man00** · 07-31-2003

Zuh? Being gay makes you a drug addict?

No, but thats the image. Thats what alot were(this was probally awhile ago, maybe with the hippies. im not a big fan of gay history).

"mart_man's gut feeling with no proof" may as well be the name of this thread.

Yeah, but you can stick in most americans name in there too...

What makes a kid raised in a house by two loving samesex parents inferior to someone whos' raised by some alcoholic woman who beats them?

The few that those 2 loving people are/will be the one you beats them.

The fact that even if they are very goof parrents their kids thing being gay is the way to go when its not.

Its just fear, all it really is. Some is justified(the past, images).

Sometimes i wish this was just a chat room so we might end this once in for all. The delay make it annoying and some one is bound to lock it......

**PJYelton** · 07-31-2003

I agree that it might be SLIGHTLY better for a kid to have "normal" parents as opposed to gay parents. But the difference is small enough that they should be allowed to, especially when you consider that day by day the world is growing more and more accepting of homosexuals.

Personally I'd rather live in rich household than a middle income household, but that doesn't mean those middle income people shouldn't be allowed to adopt.

**mart_man00** · 07-31-2003

looks like i will have to get into this mud battle

They always find a way to suck you into this man.

I ve said i wouldnt get involved in alot of threads...

**PJYelton** · 07-31-2003

>>Yeah, but you can stick in most americans name in there too...
<<
So you are admitting that you have no idea what you are talking about? Seriously, you shouldn't say that you know what most people think about gays without some kind of proof.

**Clyde** · 07-31-2003

next thing you know they will want to adopt kids

and......

Yeah for normal school reasons.

The jocks bug them for not being a jock. There not nerdy enough for the nerd crowd. Their not a pothead so they cant go with the burn outs. This will never change.

I just think that its more than a coincidence that alot of these people go gay

Which people?

If you parrents are fellons(alcholic criminals or something), theres a good chance that envirnoment will effect them. It doesnt have to but theres always some kids that just give in. Im betting that alot of the gay kids just gave up.

What a load of bull crap, where is your evidence that people from a negative environement are more likely to become gay? Its utter drivel.

But i dont know any so I cant prove it, the numbers just keep making me think

What numbers?

hmm... dont you guys think this thread is revealing the sexuality of many people here... ok.. dont drag me into a war now.. i dont have the strength to argue with anyone now...

Right because anyone who doesn't think people should be discriminated against based on their sexuality must in fact be gay..... or maybe.... not.

Weather it true or not most people think of it as a bad thing. Just like alot of people still think of the dangerous gay image(mis-guided, potential dangerous, drug adict, imoral).

Most people are stupid and need to change their opinions.

**Govtcheez** · 07-31-2003

> im not a big fan of gay history

You probably shouldn't make comments on it if you don't know anything about it, then. Hey, remember when AIDS was a gay disease? That was pretty funny, huh?

>The few that those 2 loving people are/will be the one you beats them.
The fact that even if they are very goof parrents their kids thing being gay is the way to go when its not.<

I think I translated the second sentence to say something like "The fact that even if they are very good parents their kids think being is the way to go when it's not." That's wrong, though - if that were the case, there'd be no gay kids coming out of "normal" households.

The first sentence simply baffles me.

> Some is justified(the past, images).

What the hell? How?

> The delay make it annoying and some one is bound to lock it......

Don't play the opressed voice. You really suck at it.

**Clyde** · 07-31-2003

I agree that it might be SLIGHTLY better for a kid to have "normal" parents as opposed to gay parents

Its only "better" because other people are stupid, if we lived in a world where there was no discrimination it wouldn't make the slightest difference.

**Govtcheez** · 07-31-2003

> Which people?

You know! THEM! Gaaaaaay people! Every depressed kid that was picked on by different groups and "gives in" turns gay. Everyone knows that.

> Most people are stupid and need to change their opinions.

WE HAVE A WINNER!

**PJYelton** · 07-31-2003

Its only "better" because other people are stupid, if we lived in a world where there was no discrimination it wouldn't make the slightest difference.

I completely agree. Thats why I said that the difference was getting smaller every day as gays are becoming more and more accepted.

**mart_man00** · 07-31-2003

remember when AIDS was a gay disease?

Still is. I doubt the numbers changed that quickly.

Its only "better" because other people are stupid, if we lived in a world where there was no discrimination it wouldn't make the slightest difference.

No, its better beacuse it normal.

If you had a arm sticking out of your forehead would you people to not laugh or you or would you just not want the arm?

We have to allow it, its their right. We dont have to like, we dont have to help.

What the hell? How?

In the histroy of mankind there has never been a gay person sent to jail? Been on drugs? Imoral?

Im sure there was a time when those were the only gays most people would see. That doesnt mean there all like that, but there no way there all gone. No group is perfect, deffinately not a 'alternative' group.

Don't play the opressed voice. You really suck at it.

Huh? Im just saying a char would make things quicker and easily.

What a load of bull crap, where is your evidence that people from a negative environement are more likely to become gay? Its utter drivel.

Well, if people can say they have proof for other behavor why cant it fit hear?

Ive heard of a couple of people that said alot of shild that have been molested grow up to molest and other crimes. No one said its a 100%, just a increase.

**golfinguy4** · 07-31-2003

Clyde, you seriously kick ass.

To all the gay family bashers out there, would it be ok for a father to stay at home and clean the house while a mother works full-time?

And to answer the inevitable, no, i'm not gay.

**PJYelton** · 07-31-2003

Martman, you are seriously living in the past. Show one shred of evidence that this way of thought against gays is still what most people think.

**mart_man00** · 07-31-2003

To all the gay family bashers out there, would it be ok for a father to stay at home and clean the house while a mother works full-time?

Thats a change but not a huge change.

Its just standard convention for it to be the other way around.

And to answer the inevitable, no, i'm not gay

Its because f a g has become a insult(i hate the quote this guy but, it takes away your manhood).

But we still use the word retard with not alot of out cry.

Apple pie people, apple pie!!!

**Govtcheez** · 07-31-2003

> Still is. I doubt the numbers changed that quickly.

Maybe you should look at the numbers.

> No, its better beacuse it normal.

Says who? "Natural law"? The Bible?

> If you had a arm sticking out of your forehead would you people to not laugh or you or would you just not want the arm?

AND COMING OUT OF LEFT FIELD, IT'S A TOTALLY UNRELATED ANALOGY!

> In the histroy of mankind there has never been a gay person sent to jail? Been on drugs? Imoral?

Using that logic, there's just as much reason to fear straight people. More, even, since there have been more straight people in jail.

> Ive heard of a couple of people that said alot of shild that have been molested grow up to molest and other crimes. No one said its a 100%, just a increase.

I heard that the ramp from I-275 to I-94E is closed for construction, but that doesn't mean it pertains to this discussion.

> To all the gay family bashers out there, would it be ok for a father to stay at home and clean the house while a mother works full-time?

Gross! I can't believe you even mentioned that!

**mart_man00** · 07-31-2003

Martman, you are seriously living in the past. Show one shred of evidence that this way of thought against gays is still what most people think.

How many people are gay?
How many times do you the gay news?
How many people talk about it?
How is the word f a g normally used?
How has it been for so long?

^Do you really need numbers?^