Thread: Disappointed in the Space Program

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    i heard that japan was planning to go to the moon, but that was a while ago and im gullable
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    Originally posted by SMurf
    While I'm all in favour of school bus trips to Mars (That way the Earth's pleasures will be a purely adult thing...) there is the little issue of muscle wastage. If you managed to get to Mars and back, using current technology, you'd flop to the ground when you got back, and even your own children could deck you with one swing.

    Bottom line: Gravity has its uses.

    I reckon they should have electromagnetic chambers in spacecraft and appropriate footwear, so that people could simulate *shock horror* walking properly every now and then.
    Actually, the living areas need only be placed on a wheel-like boundary of a craft that spins. The centrifical force will simulate gravity.
    Code:
    #include <cmath>
    #include <complex>
    bool euler_flip(bool value)
    {
        return std::pow
        (
            std::complex<float>(std::exp(1.0)), 
            std::complex<float>(0, 1) 
            * std::complex<float>(std::atan(1.0)
            *(1 << (value + 2)))
        ).real() < 0;
    }

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    That in itself could cause a problem though. In order for the effective gravity you felt to be the reasonably similar throughout the entire length of your body the ship would have to be huge.
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    Hmmm...are you sure about that?
    Code:
    #include <cmath>
    #include <complex>
    bool euler_flip(bool value)
    {
        return std::pow
        (
            std::complex<float>(std::exp(1.0)), 
            std::complex<float>(0, 1) 
            * std::complex<float>(std::atan(1.0)
            *(1 << (value + 2)))
        ).real() < 0;
    }

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    yes, imagine standing just off centre of a spinning roundabout. You have to hold on quite hard to stay still. Now if you walked 2 metres away on the same roundabout ( its a big roundabout ) you wouldn't have to hold on nearly as hard to stay still. Turned on its side the gravity you felt pulling you down would be a lot stronger on your head than your feet. going round in a circle the force towards the centre ( effective gravity ) is mv(squared)/r.
    As you increase r ( distance centre of roatation ) the gravity/force felt is less.

    Its hard to explain. Anyone back me up here with this explanation of mv(squared)/r.
    Last edited by crag2804; 11-25-2002 at 06:40 PM.
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    Well I certainly understand the mechanics of roundabouts quite a bit better now ( whatever they might be j/k ), what I'm really arguing here is just how large this structure would have to be? My (non-calculated) guess would be somewhere between 500-1000 feet (~125-250 meters?) in diameter minimum to simulate a sufficiently tolerable condition. Would you disagree?
    Code:
    #include <cmath>
    #include <complex>
    bool euler_flip(bool value)
    {
        return std::pow
        (
            std::complex<float>(std::exp(1.0)), 
            std::complex<float>(0, 1) 
            * std::complex<float>(std::atan(1.0)
            *(1 << (value + 2)))
        ).real() < 0;
    }

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    You guys know nothing:

    When they landed on the moon sucessfully, they planned to create colonies there, but the aliens that already had bases there told them not to. I read all about it. Same thing was told to them about Mars. Ever wonder why so many former astronaughts have died in car accidents? ALL of them died the same way. They all were killed so they could not leak information about aliens. More info on aliens, people...

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    India is planing to have a moon landing in 2010. It is still in the planing stage.. and the ISRO(Indian Space Research organization) is debating it...

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    [random thought] Hmmm, Indians on the moon...for some reason that just seems really cosmic...[/random thought]
    Code:
    #include <cmath>
    #include <complex>
    bool euler_flip(bool value)
    {
        return std::pow
        (
            std::complex<float>(std::exp(1.0)), 
            std::complex<float>(0, 1) 
            * std::complex<float>(std::atan(1.0)
            *(1 << (value + 2)))
        ).real() < 0;
    }

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    u expect me to laugh..

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    and dont forget India is also one of the 5 country's that is capable of launchung its own geo-stationary satelite...
    India is proposing a 22 percent increase in the budget for the Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO), Space News reported Thursday. ISRO would get additional 19.5 billion rupees ($401 million) for 2002-2003 according to the budget proposal. The budget includes funding for a radar imaging satellite, communications satellites, and upgrades to the Geosynchronous Satellite Launch Vehicle.
    Last edited by vasanth; 11-26-2002 at 05:08 AM.

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    There are already people on Mars - how stupid are you people? We all know the free masons are running NASA!

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    @sebast
    I don't know what level of gravity difference would be tolerable to the human body but I can do a reasonable figure. Say a change of 1% over the length of a human body. For a change of only 1%over the length of the human body, the change in total radius of the circle must be 1% over the length of a human.
    Lets say an average height of 1.8m. That means that 1% of the radius of the circle must be 1.8m. This means a spaceship must have a radius of 180m. This may not sound like a lot but compare it to the size of current craft.

    This gives a diameter of 360m and a circumference of 1.13km. Now it could be a lot more than this or a lot less depending on how temperamental the human body is.
    Your guess then of 125-250 wasn't too far wrong.

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