Thread: Java, C++?

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    My biggest concern is that i will get a good job(after college) with some big firm and hes going to say, "ok, but can u write java?"

    i wanna be able to say YES but if he needs me for java not c++ then that job would be a waste of my time. But i want to know both so i'm flexible, so what i am thinking is Java a slow learn language or could i pick it up in a few days(or weeks) should i need it at a job?

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    It won't matter - since you're not even in college yet, if you just "pick up" some language, you're not going to remember it when you're done. You need to keep with it to remember syntax and other rules.

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    Java doesn't support multiple inheritance because it interferes with Java's 'ease of use'. But I LIKE multiple inheritance!

    I am going to test out of the C++ book and my IST teacher says I can do Java...I'm also writing a game and she said I can do that for a grade (isn't that totally sweet?)

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    If you know C++ Java won't be too hard to learn. Also, Java has a good chance of being a required course in college. Supposedly, more than half of colleges now require Java as the main language to learn, as opposed to C or C++.
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    Colleges are enforcing it because (if i am correct) it replaced C++ as the language for the AP exam....

    Well to "pick up a language" then forget it isn't rlly true in my case, i picked up vb and i can still do that if i have to, tho i strongly dislike it.

    So basically i should be concerned with the language i want to live by (C++) and java is going to meet my life along the way.

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    You're going to get hired because of your transcript. That's the only thing companies have to judge you by other than certifications (unless they test you, which a lot of them do).

    I was hired for my co-op (coding in java) because of my transcript. I had a very limited knowledge of it (basic syntax)when I was hired becuase my school uses C++ as it's teaching language.

    So don't worry about it so much, but the more you know the better...

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    A well rounded programmer should be familiar with the popular languages. If you know the principals of programming, you should be good in any language. You just need to learn the syntax to switch languages. The language you specilize in will depend on the project. Each language has it strengths and weaknesses, so one language will not work in every situation.
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    ALL the jobs in most UK computing mags/industry publications require good Java programmers.

    I have watched the ads for a while now, and the money being offered for 'competent' Java programmers is double that of C++ programmers.

    Just a thought.
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    heh i put c aside to learn java (and still am) though the oop part was a lil confusing at first, still trying to get use to incroporating it with my code, its weird, but i think java is easier in that a lot of classes and functions are already written for you so it takes a lot less time to program something in java then in c/c++.
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    Definately choose c++ over java, my teacher talked to us about this.

    The java programming language is based on c++, and learning java is easier than learning c++.

    Anyways, the business world is moving in the direction of c sharp(a better java- maybe??????), and regardless, c++ won't be an outdated programming language for at least 15-20 more years.

    My class had a short discussion about this. But you'd be better off talking to someone who knows more about java.

    But the main point our teacher made was that if we know c++, then we'll figure out java if we need to.
    Last edited by Terrance; 10-06-2002 at 07:27 PM.

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    Can someone please explain this computer science AP exam? Do you need to take this to be accepted into a the CS filed at a university? What exactly is the content of the test? If I were to take this test when should I take it (I'm currently a Junior)?

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    Definitely knowing Java will counted as plus.

    But personally I don't like the slow thing. Actually people like speed.
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    The java programming language is based on c++, and learning java is easier than learning c++.
    Terrance, not exactly. Both C++ and java are based on C. It also depends on who you talk to which is easier- I feel that somethings are easier in C++ while others things are easier in Java.

    Can someone please explain this computer science AP exam? Do you need to take this to be accepted into a the CS filed at a university? What exactly is the content of the test? If I were to take this test when should I take it (I'm currently a Junior)?
    TechWinds, the CS- AP Comp Science exam is given every May. There is the A and AB exams. You can successfully earn, usually scoring a 3, 4 or 5, college credit. Since you are a junior I would ask your high school couselor or AP coordinator about the exam. It is usually taken during your senior year.

    I took APCS when I was in high school years ago. The language was Pascal
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    What Response I had for the Same Question

    Originally posted by biosninja
    Well, I would definately recomend C++. The reason is that C++ is just more challeging and the fact that you can do almst anything with it.

    Java on the other hand....I'ts a nice language, easy to use. Everything is done for you. A window is created, the mouse is initialised ect ect... That is something that is always welcome. But then again, Visual C++ also does that.
    What I had got the Response for the Same Question...
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    Thanks, Mister C, for the info.

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