"I will leave you with one bit of advice: Don't think too highly of yourself or your opinions, and don't think for even a second other people think highly of you"
An interesting piece of advice, but one which like all of your arguments lacks rational, don't think for a second that other people think highly of me?
So no-one thinks highly of me? No-one at all? And you know this........... how? Oh wait i know! Its internal knowledge that was beamed into your brain! THATS IT!
Heh, well i'm afriad your internal knowledge doesnt quite stack up against the evidence. Whilst it is entirely possible that no-one on these boards thinks highly of me, i can tell you with a reasonable amount of certainty that most people I know think rather highly of me (and i'm rather proud of that).
There is a danger and i'm well aware of it, of allowing myself to slip into unquestioning confidence of my own opinions because i'm so good at seeing holes in theory (is that arrogant? i guess so but its true; i consistently point out problems with the explanations of chemistry theory that no-one else ever sees untill ive pointed out)
But because i'm aware of it, i guard against it, i constantly rethink through my reasoning for my beliefs, i take care NOT to lapse into the "i just KNOW" because i worked it once, reasoning that is not a far cry from what is used by those who hold irrational beliefs.
"BTW, you still haven't changed my mind, nor have you out-debated me IMO. You've just repeated yourself ignoring my points and thinking you've won the battle. "
Heh i didn't think i'd change your mind, whether i've "out-debated you" or not is not really for me to say, as for ignoring your points......... i rather think not, i've disected your posts line by line replying to each of them, you on the other hand have left aside huge swathes of argument when it suits you.
My repeition is because you have failed to grasp concepts that i have been attempting to explain, yes i repeat myself, i keep saying that the if someone says the Earth is flat he is WRONG, if someone says im actually made up of cement they are WRONG, but you don't like that, it doesn't agree with your academic relativism so you discard it.
As for "winning", that is not my intention, my intention is to push where i can for sanity, for rationality, and thats what i've done, whether or not in this specific instance it has done any good, i don't know. What i do know is that i have achieved alot following this course of action, far more than i ever thought i could do: i have shaped the ideas of almost every person who has got to know me well, in that sense i've already won, anything extra is just a bonus
Anyhow, this debate whilst frustrating (they always are), was not as frustrating as many.
I wish you well, bye.