> Not a single line in VB...
Then how the hell could you possibly be qualified to say:
>>>...do you know what VB is?
>Yes i do.. its a crap...
If you haven't programmed in it, you don't really know what it is. Welcome aboard the bandwagon, my intellectually challenged crowd following acquaintance.
-Govtcheez
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it's not that I like to sit here and pick on people that make stupid comments... but when you have a programming language that is used thoroughly in business today to build interfaces, you can't really make a valid statement saying that "VB is crap" or whatever...
i hate people that make uninformed statements
>>...If you haven't programmed in it, you don't really know what >>it ...
You obviously didn't noticed the following line...
Not a single line VisualBasic
BUT MANY lines in
QBasic
BasicA
8bit APPLE 2 Basic
As for the executables ... Sorry
i messed it with the VBS used in the Excel tables
anyways VB is weak language:
why use it for making full blown applications when we have C\C++
(comming with standart libraries and API's )
why use it like interpred language! (using VBS and stuff)
when we have Java which is MUCH more powerfull ...
even Pascal is better ...
this is not *uninformed* statement
this is My own *opinion* ,
as it is my own i do express it as i like ...
Right, I saw that. QBasic and the others are quite a bit different than VB. Like ober said, how can you call a language in use in so many businesses crap? I'm not a big fan of it, personally, but it does have its place, if not just for ease of use. I've got an idea - you make a Win32 app to play rock, paper, scissors in C, and I'll do it in VB. We'll see who gets done first.Not a single line VisualBasic
BUT MANY lines in
QBasic
BasicA
8bit APPLE 2 Basic
-Govtcheez
[email protected]
>>Like ober said, how can you call a language in use in so many
>>businesses crap?
Yes and this is the bad thing... a businesman is not a programer so what he really needs is n easy script to insert into his excell tables or in some other bad **** called ASP (which really bad comparing to the PHP)
but he doesn't need a real language
BTW give me any example of a succesfull comercial program MADE with VB! I can't see any
>>you make a Win32 app to play rock, paper, scissors in C, and I'll do it in VB. We'll see who gets done first.
If you want to do it with Windows GUI interface
i'll use MFC
if you want to do it in console
i'll use C++ STL
tell me those are not fast enough
tell me, can you make a notepad with 3 clicks from the mouse??
(try with MFC)
i'm not a fan of MFC ... i hate it...
but when it comes to RAD ...
I think VB is crap. I have programmed in it, and I'm forced to maintain quite a few programs written in it. However, you can make API calls in VB and you can make very easy GUIs in VB, which was a royal PITA with MFC. If you don't think so, you have never used VB and seen it's speed of development.
I like to say VB is the dark side of the source. It's simple, it's the easy way out, it's eeeevil.
This is why I like C# that much... it has VB's ease of use plus a real nice language in the background.
hth
-nv
She was so Blonde, she spent 20 minutes looking at the orange juice can because it said "Concentrate."
When in doubt, read the FAQ.
Then ask a smart question.
but don't you see (nv) it's a trap!!
C# is just a more seductive form of VB, ITS STILL THE DARK SIDE!!!!
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"Not a single line VisualBasic
BUT MANY lines in
QBasic
BasicA
8bit APPLE 2 Basic
"
I've used many variations of BASIC (including QBasic). VB, which I've only used a couple times, is nothing like QBasic. Just because youve used QB/GWBasic/whatever BASIC, doesn't mean that they are like VB. Although im not particulary a VB fan, it is a pretty good language, and has its place amoung others today.
>>...its eeevil!...
Yeah man! it is
Let us pray for our souls ...
and we shall seek truth and peace in the Bible++!
anyways ...
C# is mystery for me...
what is the differnence between C# and Java for example...
(besides the intermidiate code)
and this .NET ...
what does the word "platform" means here...
is it a OS ... or is it a Virtual Machine like Java's
oh yeah
i forgot
heres a joke:
"
Bill Gates died and he went in hell...
the Master Devil was impressed with the Win32 OS (he installed it on the pits of lava so that he could fry the souls with just one POINT&CLICK on the mouse)
and he send him into a ring of hell full of Nice blond chicks and *****s...
"Well, said Billy, thats good! i thought this was hell!"
so he approached the first girl his eyes could see ...
She started to un-dress her reaally slow and sexy..
and Billy was so happy..!!!
BUT just as he was ready to introduce his little friend to the chick , she disappeared!!!
"What happened !!! where did she go?" he asked the DEVil
"well this was just the Demo Version, sorry!" the Devil replied
"
let us keep the Billy's gates closed ...
those are the Gates of Hell ...
Yep hes a crackhead
...I think you ARE on crack. Either that you don't just smoke weed at parties.
"What this country needs is more free speech worth listening to." - -Hansell B. Duckett
Personally, I like C# better than VB. I have never programmed extensively in either; it is just that c# doesn't seem as ugly. Although it is effective, you all have to admit that VB is UGLY.
>>...crack...
Say what you want...
this won't make the VB a real language...
it will be forever a language for kiddies and bussinesmen...
(and obviously it is a language for you...
but i don't think you are a bussinesmen... if you were , you wouldn't have time to post on forums ... you know time is money )
so grow up kid and use REAL languages...
The thing that you have to remember is that Win32 is an interface. It is implemented in C, in such a way that it is object based, kind of like C made to act like C++. The Win32 interfaces is the system interface. That means that the Win32 subsystems are delegated all of the processes. This means that if you are using the Microsoft operating system than all of your programs are C at the lowest level, C and some ASM. All of your VB applications make calls to C function libraries, that's why I don't understand the arguement that would define VB as more efficent and powerful than C. Microsoft has said that VB is a rapid application development language, it is very easy to construct basic windows applications as well as some other types of applications. I mentioned that VB doesn't exist anymore because it doesn't. The VB in VB.net is a subset of the .net intermediate language. Mind that .net is a middleware component written in C++.
