Thread: penny.tossing_routine (HEAD_TAIL_STRUCTURE *coin);

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    penny.tossing_routine (HEAD_TAIL_STRUCTURE *coin);

    >If you toss a penny 10,000 times it will not be heads 5000 times but more like 4950. The head picture weighs more, so it ends up on the bottom.

    i would like to hear an explaination and discussion! a penny could be balanced on either face... and a slight offset would fail it, but is a head-down offset less stable than a tail-down one then?
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    out of 5000 tosses, it could land heads every time, or it could land tails every time.
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    i believe that was assumed in hypotheticals. rather, i think that he meant his data was to address the practically realized ratio as the number of flips reached infinity...
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    Yes, basically it means that the chance of landing on heads is 49.5% and the chance of landing on tails is 50.5%. Its just a random fact, which of course changes from penny to penny due to manufacturing defects, but in general, the heads weighs more.
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    The difference is negligible though otherwise people wouldn't toss coins to make decisions as it would obviously be unfair.

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    Yeah, it is negligible, and other outside factors tend to mess up the results more than this minor weight difference.
    The word rap as it applies to music is the result of a peculiar phonological rule which has stripped the word of its initial voiceless velar stop.

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    The surfing monitor agrees... :P

    It's an interesting theory but not of any real use in society.

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    Of course its of no use, I got it from UselessFacts.net.
    The word rap as it applies to music is the result of a peculiar phonological rule which has stripped the word of its initial voiceless velar stop.

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    I might have guessed!!

    LOL!

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    Now that this has been solved, I must find another useless and odd fact.
    The word rap as it applies to music is the result of a peculiar phonological rule which has stripped the word of its initial voiceless velar stop.

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    May have a use after all

    In Australia we have a game called Two Up. It was played by the ANZAC's on the way to WW1. It is a tradition to gamble on ANZAC day at what is known as a Two Up School.
    Two pennies are tossed, 2 heads wins, 2 tails looses and one of each is an odd, spin again. Simple stuff.

    While working in a casino I delt Two Up. One old digger (war vet) would come and watch for a few hours and see if the coins were not 'even' (spinning more pairs of heads than pairs of tails).
    If he found a signifigant difference he would bet with a 'catch up' system.

    When he had made his $200 (or lost $50) for the day he would leave. Most days he won.

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    >>> In Australia we have a game called Two Up.

    Is it true that it is illegal to play Two Up on days other than Anzacs day? I was in Aus for a while and was told this at a Two Up match, (on Anzacs day 1995). Mind you, the guy that told me this had been on the beer for a while, as had everyone else.
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    Yes. Unless you are in a casino.
    It is legal on ANZAC day if you are too far from a casino.

    In the casino we got turn of the century (1900) pennies from the gov inspector each day. Each set has 5 pennies. If they threw too many tails, the punters would toss one onto a nearby light fitting so we would have to get another set.

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    regardless of the practicality of it. what i'm asking is that, given that the flips the coin endures is arbitrary [between odd/even starts/finishes], how can it be slightly more heads? given or without physics... thanks!
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    Maybe that is why the tail of the penny is painted with a cross (to even up with the heavier head). I thought it was to help show the diff when they landed.

    In my experience it is the penny bending and/or denting that cause more heads or tails.

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