Thread: Do you believe in aliens(extra terrestrials)?

Originally Posted by cpjust

The universe isn't infinite. At the moment of the Big Bang, the universe was infinitesmally small, then space began exploding outward in all directions and it's still expanding now.

Think of space as the ocean and matter as boats floating on the ocean. Now imagine that the ocean is expanding in every direction. That's the universe.

My universe existed before the big bang.

Did yours?

Originally Posted by ಠ_ಠ

My universe existed before the big bang.

Did yours?

But how could it "exist" without time?

Hook!! Hook!

Originally Posted by cpjust

But how could it "exist" without time?

why would it need time to exist?

All this about finite mass... I don't really believe it. In the universe, it all seems "infinite". Why can black holes have infinite mass and still weight 0 grams? That's like all matter exists in one place, meaning it could defy conventional laws that more matter takes more space and weights more.
Then there's the white holes. The exact opposite of black holes. So are they infinite mass in one place or no mass at all in one place?

As for the whole nothing is faster than light theory, I don't believe it. We have constantly searched for the smallest possible building stones of our environment, and have yet to find it. Ie, it seems infinitely small. Just another building block after another.
So what is to say that there isn't infinite amount of possible speeds, beyond light speed?
For that matter, couldn't we use white holes to travel through the universe in a distant future?
Space travel is very likely possible, just not yet.

I do agree with time, though. It is a strange thing, yet it seems to be a product of our brain and relative to each of us.

Also given the "infinite" amounts of possible chemical compositions, who is to say there is not intelligent life elsewhere? Saying not so would be like denying everything around us. It's just too high a possibility.
If there are infinite, or ever expanding, planets or mass out there, then there must be an infinite chance of possible life, no?

I think that if the universe had infinite mass, the Law of Conservation of Mass would be rather difficult to explain. If mass could be infinite then there is no reason why it shouldn't be created and destroyed on a regular basis.

So what is to say that there isn't infinite amount of possible speeds, beyond light speed?
For that matter, couldn't we use white holes to travel through the universe in a distant future?
Space travel is very likely possible, just not yet.

I am somewhat grateful that science is more than random ass guessing. We can discount the possibility while there isn't a good hypothesis to test and no evidence to speak of.

And yeah, none of this makes alien life any more likely.

hmm... Well, one strange thing is that everyone on here seems to belive in the big bang and not any other religion xD and no, I'm not revealing my beliefs in this post, they're are irrelevant xP

The thing that absolutely astounds me is that almost 20% of the people here DON'T believe in aliens. I can't see how it would be possible to have such an ENORMOUS universe with only one habited planet.

Originally Posted by whiteflags

I think that if the universe had infinite mass, the Law of Conservation of Mass would be rather difficult to explain. If mass could be infinite then there is no reason why it shouldn't be created and destroyed on a regular basis.

A law is not a definite thing, however. The physics laws have been changed over time, as well. And there are no less than two hypothesises, I believe, none of which are exact is describing how things work, so yeah, I'm believing that that law would probably fail when and if we get more understanding of how things work.

And yeah, none of this makes alien life any more likely.

Infinite / 10^(-1 000 000) = Infinite?

Ah yes, there is also more to the time phenomenon than merely out perception. The body and all living things change over time.
And yet, the closer we come to the speed of light, the less that changes over time.
So it indeed a thing of our perception of one thing, yet it is not?

I don't, 'cause I'm too ignorant >: D
Humans are not only the rulers of earth, but space too! xP
Meh, to be honest, I don't really care if some aliens live in a distant place somewhere... For those who do, why don't you start building a space rocket and start searching? xP

Originally Posted by Elysia

Ah yes, there is also more to the time phenomenon than merely out perception. The body and all living things change over time.
And yet, the closer we come to the speed of light, the less that changes over time.
So it indeed a thing of our perception of one thing, yet it is not?

Time is a boundary which gives us the freedom to act as autonomous, conscious beings. You don't have the freedom to do absolutely anything, however -- for example you cannot change the physical laws that govern the realm in which you must live as a biological organism. They are some great laws tho, because they did auto-generate us.

But machines are not as restricted. That is why we must, must, must develop super-computers that can invent spacetime eventually, or else just give up and let some bunch of aliens do it for us. The fact that we are here now is proof positive that this is what is going to happen, one way or the other.

Originally Posted by Akkernight

hmm... Well, one strange thing is that everyone on here seems to belive in the big bang and not any other religion xD and no, I'm not revealing my beliefs in this post, they're are irrelevant xP

The only version of the Big Bang I believe is when Xenu brought all those thetans to Teegeeack and dropped hydrogen bombs on them 75 million years ago

Originally Posted by ಠ_ಠ

The only version of the Big Bang I believe is when Xenu brought all those thetans to Teegeeack and dropped hydrogen bombs on them 75 million years ago

Am I the only one that doesn't have the slightest clue what he's talking about?

Originally Posted by ಠ_ಠ

The only version of the Big Bang I believe is when Xenu brought all those thetans to Teegeeack and dropped hydrogen bombs on them 75 million years ago

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