172 o.o! You eather listen too well, read too much or are Einstein D:
And you all worry too much! If you loose your jobs, then go live life! Try all kinds of stuff, and then when you're broke and stuff, you will get a job back, if you try hard enough xP
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He also hasn't given you a job for the past five months. I wouldn't want to hire you because you sound like an arrogant ass.God didn't give me a 172 IQ so I could program ........ing database's and web pages
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Last edited by BobMcGee123; 01-27-2009 at 06:51 AM.
I'm not immature, I'm refined in the opposite direction.
"I am probably the laziest programmer on the planet, a fact with which anyone who has ever seen my code will agree." - esbo, 11/15/2008
"the internet is a scary place to be thats why i dont use it much." - billet, 03/17/2010
If I'm not mistaken, your IQ only really (accurately) measures how well you learn, doesn't it? Or something.
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To side track this further: IQ tests ONLY test how good you are at solving IQ tests - nothing else. Now, some are better than others - and the free ones on the web usually aren't!
Many so called IQ tests are not at all IQ tests, but rather skills/knowledge tests.
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The real ones test many different cognitive domains, learning rate, problem solving ability, memory are just a few.
Mats, i believe you are referring to the 'free online ones' when you say they measure the ability to take IQ tests and nothign more. I wasn't rated by those, but rather the professional ones that take several hours in an actual psychiatrists office. You know, ones like WAIS, Stanford-Binet, Catel, etc.
And to sidetrack this even further, in my experience the people who most fervently believe that IQ doesnt matter are the ones with little of it.
I am an arrogant ass, what of it? It's hard not being arrogant when you are constantly bombarded by the deafening sound of how awesome it is to be me
Last edited by abachler; 01-27-2009 at 09:02 AM.
Whilst the comprehensive tests you mention certainly are better than the free ones on the internet, they still measure your ability to perform those tests - which may or may not reflect well on your ability to do other things. Yes, if you get a high score, you are measurably intelligent.
And no, I suppose I don't "need" an intelligence test - my score on the "skills" test they had at military service in Sweden, I did "middle of the range" on the average, but I had a spread from 3-9 on a scale of 1-9(1="poor", 9="best") for the different tests. I also scored 9 on the fitness test, which I doubt I'd get even close to now, 20+ years later.
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IQ: The new ePenis
And I'm starting to see why someone is jobless
Then by that token, a college degree doesnt measure knowledge, only your ability to get a college degree, so we should stop using them as a qualification.
I've heard that arguement many times, it sounds like a fine notion to those trying to justify discriminating against highly intelligent people, but the facts show that IQ does directly correlate to job performance, and while IQ generally improves the success at attaining a degree, attaining a degree does not improve your IQ.
Could you please define me what intelligence is ?And to sidetrack this even further, in my experience the people who most fervently believe that IQ doesnt matter are the ones with little of it.
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And before you try discriminating me, yes I did pass a few IQ tests and got satisfying results.
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The difference is that when I have an accounting test in which I perform well it means that my knowledge of accounting is above the level of my exam. When you succeed well in an IQ test, it means that your knowledge of.. wait there is no knowledge tested. It may test skills in certain fields but saying it tests intelligence is highly subjective.
Last edited by Desolation; 01-27-2009 at 09:54 AM.
Unless you're such an arrogant ass you can't work with other people...but I guess it's just a cruel society in which there's so many stupid people out there employed in the same field as you, but you've been unemployed for the past 5 months...I've heard that arguement many times, it sounds like a fine notion to those trying to justify discriminating against highly intelligent people, but the facts show that IQ does directly correlate to job performance, and while IQ generally improves the success at attaining a degree, attaining a degree does not improve your IQ.
My guess is you're mostly full of ...........you sound the way I did when I was 16 man.
I'm not immature, I'm refined in the opposite direction.
This (Validity of IQ) has been discussed before on other forums
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=88565.
Whilst I agree that a college degree/ higher IQ is important for employment, EQ is important for retaining it, I think.
Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted
- Albert Einstein.
No programming language is perfect. There is not even a single best language; there are only languages well suited or perhaps poorly suited for particular purposes.
- Herbert Mayer
I've found that the higher a person's IQ gets the lower their social skills get, which would explain some of my faux pas.
I'm wondering if there's a connection between IQ and Asperger Syndrome?
"I am probably the laziest programmer on the planet, a fact with which anyone who has ever seen my code will agree." - esbo, 11/15/2008
"the internet is a scary place to be thats why i dont use it much." - billet, 03/17/2010