I program in C++ and I have a pretty good idea of what im doing but Im not an expert. Ive been self tought for about 9 months now, the first 6 in basic C. So I was wondering my copy of Visual Studio allows me to program in C# and Visual Basic, so I was curious if they are worth learning Visual Basic I looked at but didnt like and I have no idea about C#.
I program using Visual Studio Professional 2008. I have little experience, I'm self taught. I started basic C in early March 2008 with a 1987 compiler and C++ this October with Visual Studio. I normally program in Visual C++ creating form programs. My current project is a simple game where I hide a dot and you have to find it in different random sinerios.
My Catchphrase:
DOS wasn't written in a day...
I program in just about any language that the job demands, but in general, I prefer using C++. As far as C# and VB, they're pretty useful for platform-specific stuff, but suffer from (rather irritating and non-intuitive) language defects.
Code:#include <cmath> #include <complex> bool euler_flip(bool value) { return std::pow ( std::complex<float>(std::exp(1.0)), std::complex<float>(0, 1) * std::complex<float>(std::atan(1.0) *(1 << (value + 2))) ).real() < 0; }
I would become yet more familiar with C/C++ before moving on to another language.
You may feel comfortable with C++ now, but after 9 months, there's still a bit more about the language to learn, mainly how to efficiently use it.
Let me put it this way, it's much better to know only a few languages really well than to know a bunch of languages only enough to get by.
I'd wait.
It depends on what I'm writing. Right now I probably spend most of my time in PHP as I'm doing web applications. For desktop I'm spending more time in Java as I'm doing GUI programs. For CPU bound applications I tend to use C or C++. And for embedded programs I use C.
I haven't used C# and have only limited experience with VB. VB annoys me, a lot, so I tend to say away from it.
I actually completely disagree with Yarin. IMO it is better to broaden your horizons early before you get set into thinking in one mode of thinking. I think people would be better off if they were exposed to a bunch of different languages, especially if they use different paradigms, early on so that they can learn when to switch to another language for a particular task.
For the last decade mostly Java, a bit of Ruby, some Rexx, C++, C, Delphi.
Also Javascript, Python, an ever increasing amount of PL/SQL.
Before that also x86 Assembler, Cobol, Fortran, Basic, Pascal.
Try to learn new languages regularly, even if you don't use them in anger they give you a different perspective on things, make you a better developer.
The last few (15 or so) years, I've used C, C++ and PHP, along with a few lines of assembler now and again.
Knowing more than one language (of different origin) is always good to get yourself a broader base to work on things from.
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I am coding for the past 1 year or so (lol) and I usually code in C or java.
Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted
- Albert Einstein.
No programming language is perfect. There is not even a single best language; there are only languages well suited or perhaps poorly suited for particular purposes.
- Herbert Mayer
I program mainly in C# right now. I like it alot.
But I still have a strong love for the C++. I just don't get to program in it everyday at work.
I have also messed around with VB.net. It and C# are very similar as far as what you can do. But I am not a fan of vb syntax. So I would choose C# over it any day.
Woop?
In my current job it's Java, Perl & Bash; in my last job C++, Java, Rexx & Batch files; before that C++, Rational Visual Test (which is basically like VB) & Batch files.
So yeah, learning different languages would be useful. Given the trend to move toward more (binary) portable languages like Java, I would suggest learning Java for sure, and VB even though I hate it, is good to know. Scripting languages like Bash & Perl are good too.
"I am probably the laziest programmer on the planet, a fact with which anyone who has ever seen my code will agree." - esbo, 11/15/2008
"the internet is a scary place to be thats why i dont use it much." - billet, 03/17/2010
How do you use a language in anger? Actually with VB that sorta makes sense....even if you don't use them in anger ...
I program in primarily in C++ but dabble some in C# and ActionScript.
I use D when I program.
Used to use C++.
I think there is some merit to this. Being limited in my time (I don't program for a living, but do something completely unrelated) I don't have the 'luxury' of spending a lot of time mastering any language, let alone one. C is the language I am most comfortable with, and though I have taken stabs at C++ (Python too), and really like some of the features it offers, I find that it is overwhelmingly large to learn, given lack of time. Seeing that C is my 'favourite' language, I tend to fall to it for *every* program I write, even if there might be a better language to use. This is actually something I was just thinking about the last couple of days; I have been contemplating writing a regex tutor of sorts, and already I am thinking in terms of C, and wondering if there might be an easier way (Python might work well enough). Sometimes I think it is time to learn a different language. I think I am crippling my efforts, because for some things, C is just a lot more work than is necessary.Originally Posted by Thantos
As an aside, does anyone here relate to the idea that you like your first language most, because it was your 'first'?
I use mainly C#, I haven't used C++ in a while, and when I did I never did anything in it. I'm lacking a nice project to keep me occupied. Netflix has taken over.
Just C and Java for now, I'd love to get into C++ but I've got 2 largish projects going at the moment (one in C, one in Java).
Other than that, vbscript at work (poor me!) and a bit of Perl.
